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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-22-2016, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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This question is about ceramic guide blocks and thrust bearings for my 14" Grizzly band saw. Up until now, I haven't used my band saw a great deal. I've done some resawing and a few projects but it's been limited. In the near future I expect to get back into making band saw boxes. As an aside, I also may be moving to Florida and I'm starting to think "rust" along with the alligators and snakes. Anyway, I've been reading about ceramic guide and thrust bearings. According to the literature they are quieter, run cooler and last longer than metal roller bearings. It also says that by running cooler they extends blade life. Does anyone have any experience with ceramic vs metal bearings? Is it worth the investment? Cost is an issue being retired and on a fixed income but willing to make the investment if it's worth it.
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I just bought a Laguna band saw. It came with ceramic guides. I watched videos on Laguna's web site and they highly recommend ceramic. They even make ceramic blocks for other saws. Not trying to be a Laguna commercial, just inputting what I found.

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Barry,

I have not checked the cost of switching to ceramic for quite some time, but as I recall, the upgrade is a bit expensive. I had an occasion to replace a thrust bearing on my saw and the cost was nominal. I do not know what the cost of replacing a guide bearing would be, but at first blush I'd say that if cost is an issue, I'd wait and see how things go.

I say this due to what has happened to me before I became so ill that I have, for the time being anyway, not been doing any woodworking, I was spending money on every new gadget and tool that came up on the forum that it was becoming rediculeous and I so I stopped buying things unless I really needed them. Of course by then, there was not much to buy that I didn't already have.

If I had to do it over again, I'd be a little more careful about buying things that I didn't really need.

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Barry for the rust I use Johnson's Floor Wax.

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Barry,

I have not checked the cost of switching to ceramic for quite some time, but as I recall, the upgrade is a bit expensive. I had an occasion to replace a thrust bearing on my saw and the cost was nominal. I do not know what the cost of replacing a guide bearing would be, but at first blush I'd say that if cost is an issue, I'd wait and see how things go.

I say this due to what has happened to me before I became so ill that I have, for the time being anyway, not been doing any woodworking, I was spending money on every new gadget and tool that came up on the forum that it was becoming rediculeous and I so I stopped buying things unless I really needed them. Of course by then, there was not much to buy that I didn't already have.

If I had to do it over again, I'd be a little more careful about buying things that I didn't really need.

Just my two cents worth,

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Amen to that Jerry. I also like guns and the same goes for them.
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I personally wouldn't but them. They may be better but I don't think that you would notice a difference. I also wouldn't tote a Grizzly to Florida. For that matter I wouldn't tote anything that I couldn't fit in the trunk of my car. Used tools can be had pretty inexpensively. Movers charge by the pound so it doesn't make much sense to move heavy objects unless they are really valuable. As far as furniture etc. the same applies.
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if the bandsaw is set up properly, bearings get very little wear. I dont see that they could become hot, let alone overheated. If you were flexing the blade to its limit, only the back edge of one side bearing and the front edge of the other would be in contact with the blade, and even then the outer race would be moving at the same speed as the blade, so friction would be minimal.

Then take into account the cost and time spent of any modifications, and it has no appeal to me at all to try to change.
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I think a band saw will cut snakes just fine. You may have problems with alligators though.
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I have Carter guides on my Delta Band saw. Properly set up, they don't really move much. They are not supposed to touch the blade unless it is deflected. I'm buying a Laguna fourteen 12 tomorrow and I'm looking forward to the cool block guides. They are made of material that have the characteristics of the tiles on the Space Shuttle. heat that would melt steel on one surface, cool to the touch on the other. From what I've read they're as good as the Carter guides, which is saying a lot.

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