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Here is an interesting concept for splicing a 120v wire run where a junction box would be unsightly in the final result.

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Herb; that'd still be in violation of the Electrical Code in Canada, in almost all instances.
There are strict rules as to where non-metallic sheathed cable can be run on the surface, and if its covered over all connections have to be accessible from somewhere (the front, behind, above or below).
I'd be disinclined to go the route pictured, if for no other reason than it's expensive.
I wish I had a buck for every splice I've found hidden in a wall or ceiling, some of them frightening in their incompetent execution (wires twisted together and no Marrettes or tape for example) *shudders*.
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those are used in double wides almost exclusively..

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In the description it says it meets codes, and it would be better than what Dan describes he has found, as far as cost, the cost of j-box, cover, and wire nuts would run about the same plus the unsightly job of exposed J-box. What difference is manufactured homes than any other home in this situation, the juice still runs through it.
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As Dan said Herb it would still be illegal here. The wire is not allowed to run across any surface unshielded and any connection must be accessible. That means the wire would still have to be in a conduit or inside a wall and that there would still have to be an access to the joint so it doesn't seem to provide any additional advantages over a junction box. I kept looking for a cover to go over it so it could be surface mounted and then the wire could go 90* at the ends into the walls but there isn't a cover apparently.

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Well dang I was hoping they were legal here , as I have a little screw up where I had to add an extra outlet in order to splice .
I'd sooner use this , but I also read it must be accessible . Strange as it says it's code compliant , but it must only must be legal in the USA?

We have an electrician at work , and I'll have to ask him on Tuesday

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Well dang I was hoping they were legal here , as I have a little screw up where I had to add an extra outlet in order to splice .
I'd sooner use this , but I also read it must be accessible . Strange as it says it's code compliant , but it must only must be legal in the USA?

We have an electrician at work , and I'll have to ask him on Tuesday
Thats a good idea, Rick, It would be good to know if it complies.
Wouldn't want to do something unsafe or out of compliance.

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Sorry to deviate from the topic. Too bad it is at HD. They tried to screw me on the warranty on a Ryobi 18V Li-ion battery warranty. Haven't been back since.

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That is an interesting concept, Herb. The picture of it on the website isn't very self explanatory, and I wasn't able to find a manufacturer's demo or video yet. If it works as I'm imagining it, I've seen a few times in remodeling my son's house where it would have come in handy. I'll try to find out more. Thanks for sharing.

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That is an interesting concept, Herb. The picture of it on the website isn't very self explanatory, and I wasn't able to find a manufacturer's demo or video yet. If it works as I'm imagining it, I've seen a few times in remodeling my son's house where it would have come in handy. I'll try to find out more. Thanks for sharing.
Jim I have been poking around the internet and ran into this forum that the consensus of opinion is not favorable.
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But I agree with you. Over the years while cutting into walls I have ran into electrical wiring going across the opening that needs to be rerouted, and a exposed J-box is not a solution.

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