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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 10-13-2016, 11:35 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, everyone! Sounds like a table saw is the reigning champion. Now I need to do a lot of research on exact models and seeing what we can budget. If the saws are too expensive, we may focus more on smaller tools/hand tools until we can afford the table saw.
@RainMan 2.0 I'll definitely look that fence up! Thanks!!
@Jerry Bowen OK. So, don't buy a cheaper saw, mounting a circular saw isn't worth it. What about just using a circular saw on a nice table with guides/jigs? OK, that sounds really wise. I want to get the garage clean and setup with some basic tools, build a tool cabinet, woodworking table, bicycle rack. Maybe I can practice with other people on a table saw and get the basics down first. Thanks!
@JOAT OK, thanks!
@Cherryville Chuck Wow... $2,794.00. That level is out of our budget for now. OK, thanks! A miter saw looks fast and useful, but learning to use a table saw will be more useful for me in the long run and is more versatile. OK, awesome! Thanks! And thanks for the advice on the circular saw vs. TS. For now I think I'll use our old circular saw, learn more, build guides/jigs, and we'll look into a jobsite/small table saw.. Thanks!
@DaninVan OK, awesome! I'll have to look into that option, too! Especially as table saws seem to be extremely expensive. A couple metal/wooden sawhorses, some guides, quality blades, and I'd be good to go. We have a 7 1/4 SKILSaw 1980-1. The blades are rusty and the saw hasn't been used for years, but we can buy fresh blades and I can wipe down this saw. Thanks for the links!!
@Shop guy Thanks! I will definitely want to look up tutorials when I get a table saw. We have a used router (Makita 3612BR plunge router) I bought at the local market that I am working on fixing up and finding bits for.
@Marco Nice, thanks! We'll buy that. Definitely planning on going with using our circular saw for now, building jigs and guides, getting us some real sawhorses, and getting a better understanding of woodworking. If/when we can afford a table saw, we may get one. Can't appreciate what you don't earn.
@coxhaus OK, thanks! Maybe I can let a few friends know we are looking out for one in case someone retires theirs.
@Stick486 Thanks so much! Bosch 4100? OK, noted!
@DesertRatTom Thanks!! The "Bosch 4100-09 10-Inch Worksite Table Saw with Gravity-Rise Stand" or the "Bosch GTS1031 10-Inch Portable Jobsite Table Saw"? The Laguna Fusion looks very nice. I don't believe we have that type of outlet in our garage. Can I do most of my cutting with a circular saw, using jigs and guides? Then in a couple years, once the workshop is otherwise setup and prepared, and I have a lot more experience under my belt, we can invest in the table saw? Thank you for your 17 pieces of advice! I have read that section from your kind post in another thread. Thanks!
@kp91 Inspiring and exciting. I like starting with fewer tools and building up. Otherwise, how will I understand what I'm doing or appreciate the expensive tools? Thanks for the link on setting up a workshop!
@Nickp Thanks! Right. My current projects are preparing the garage to be a workshop, building a single shelf, bike racks, and then small boxes, etc. For now I will be using wood from Lowes but would love to use untreated wood I dry myself over a number of seasons. We do have a 2-car garage, but there is a lot of junk in there. So, yeah. Not much space, sadly. OK, thanks, good list! OK. I'll work on learning the circular saw and making/using guides. Down the line that Bosch or the Dewalt doppelganger may be in our budget. I've picked up a Makita 3612br plunge router at a local market. Since I don't know much yet, I was basically buying blind. I looked online and found it was a good model. Router for $30 and the metal table for $10. But the plunging gets stuck so we're going to buy new springs and I'm going to oil it down, and all the base guides are gone. Of course, I didn't know to look for these things when buying - but I'm learning.
@Everend Speed square - cool, thanks! The "DEWALT DW745 10-Inch Compact Job-Site Table Saw"?
I understand. I really enjoy making tools - encountering problems, finding solutions that either are not invented or are normally too expensive.
@mgmine Wow! $100 is something we could afford. I'll have to see if we can find one that fits those requirements.

Once again, thank you everyone for your wonderful advice!!!
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I would keep an eye out for a used table saw if your not in a hurry . May get a better quality unit than you will buying new if your budgets not great .
I bought a cabinet saw from General , but if I could do it all over again I'd go with a cabinet saw model from SawStop . What price can you put on your fingers ?
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So, don't buy a cheaper saw, mounting a circular saw isn't worth it. What about just using a circular saw on a nice table with guides/jigs?
Milwaukee and Bosch circular saws rule... Bosch jigsaws dominate...
clamp on guides are your friend...
PRO-Grip Straight Edge Clamps

A couple metal/wooden sawhorses,
please no metal... at some point in time there is a chance things won't go well...
google wood ones and build your own to suit you..
make a cut table... there are zillion kinds/types/sizes...
google for more...
see PDF

Bosch 4100? OK, noted!
that saw is seriously looked down on and sold short....
the saw as is is unreal...
Bosch as a company is one of the more outstanding ones and there products are meant for a life time...
Factory Reconditioned Bosch 4100-RT 10 in. Worksite Table Saw
build it into a table... there bazillion plans out there for these too...
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But the plunging gets stuck so we're going to buy new springs and I'm going to oil it down,
clean the rails/guide bars and wax them or use dry lube like Tri-flow on them...
DO NOT use oil of any kind.. it only makes problems...
and WD40 can become your worst enemy...

I'll have to see if we can find one that fits those requirements.

I have zero faith in crapsman...
just don't do it...

quality blades/bits,
I am really partial to Freud as are many here are...
please stay away from asian manufacture... you'll thank you in the long run...
see the PDFs...



WHY BOSCH...

2nd to none CS and support that's absolutely painless...
They respect us, the consumer...
tools that are real work horses...
they last a very long time...
they protect my bottom line...

I think/believe Bosch to be an outstanding company... they seem to always man up to any found problems in a heartbeat... quite unlike most of the other tool manufactures/companies...
I just had a problem with two of their 1617 routers... a really old abused one and and a new one out of the box.. (it sounded terrible - gravely).... only took a day and all is well even with the old one and I never had to leave the shop.....

I have a lot of their tools...and I mean a lot... I started using Bosch in the late 70's... since then, they've have proven themselves dependable and have yet to let me down... Bosch has come through, within reason, to my benefit...
less down time, less hassles, less additional monies spent, longevity...
planned obsolesce isn't an issue and a lot less all around grief...
they have proven to me that they have the most cost effective track record w/ any of their products over and over again...

if you don't mind mediocre and disposable along with the associated trials and tribulations.... buy "other" I'll stay with Bosch... I've learned my lessons...


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@bdbailey ..

Rainman said... but if I could do it all over again I'd go with a cabinet saw model from SawStop ...

search here for the saw stop threads...
just saying...

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@bdbailey ..

Rainman said... but if I could do it all over again I'd go with a cabinet saw model from SawStop ...

search here for the saw stop threads...
just saying...
If you are considering a Sawstop, please look into the Bosch REAXX 15-Amp 10-in Table Saw.It has a (Better?) instant stop function that requires only the change of a cartridge, not replacement of the entire blade assembly.
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Ben; thank you for responding to all the members! We don't often agree with each other, but we're a great community and we love it when new members jump right in.
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Sounds like this string helped you work out your buying sequence.

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If you are considering a Sawstop, please look into the Bosch REAXX 15-Amp 10-in Table Saw.It has a (Better?) instant stop function that requires only the change of a cartridge, not replacement of the entire blade assembly.
I like Bosches system better , but as of yet I haven't seen one in a cabinet saw that they've built ?

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