He's Back!!!! Cutting Board Questions - Router Forums
 7Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
vchiarelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Country: Canada
First Name: Vince
Posts: 3,456
 
Default He's Back!!!! Cutting Board Questions

First - Happy Birthday to all the folks who celebrated while I was away. Hope you all had a great day on your special day.

Golf season finally wound down - I did play 9 holes yesterday though but I've spent some time in the shop milling up some material for cutting boards.

Questions for all the cutting board experts.

I'm in the process of making some end grain cutting boards using cherry and walnut for Christmas and I have a couple of questions:

1. Glue - Titebond II/III is FDA approved for indirect food contact - great, except I have to drive 30 miles to get it. No one in my immediate area carries it - I know, hard to believe.

Gorilla wood glue - readily available, but - cannot find any info re: FDA approval for indirect food contact. Any comments/opinions on this would be appreciated

2. Walnut - I'm concerned about an individual who has a severe nut allergy.
What are your thoughts on using walnut in that situation?

Any help/opinions are welcome.

Thanks
Vince

Some folks call me Vince - other folks call me...........
vchiarelli is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 11:35 AM
Marine Engineer
 
kp91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Country: United States
First Name: Doug
Posts: 4,539
 
Default

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...AmY0aAG3F-PSYw

A quick internet search of "experts" says walnut wood might be able to trigger a reaction, but not sure how likely.

my gut reaction is to avoid it for that individual if you have a concern. Thanks for a great topic to research as I wait for my dermatitis prescription to be filled....
Stick486 likes this.

Doug
1 John 1:9
Fredericksburg, VA




http://disasterreliefeffort.org/

Last edited by kp91; 11-30-2016 at 12:44 PM.
kp91 is offline  
post #3 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 11:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Country: United States
First Name: lee
Posts: 736
 
Default

I have a question on how you plane your end grain cutting boards. My understanding is you can not use straight knives.

Do you use a big sanding machine or spiral head planer?
coxhaus is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 12:28 PM
Registered User
 
DaninVan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Country: Canada
First Name: Dan
Posts: 14,076
 
Default

"Do you use a big sanding machine or spiral head planer?"
-Lee
Myself, I use my belt sander. 80 grit takes down a lot of material pretty rapidly.
I had been using a pneumatic 'jitterbug' sander but it's acting up, so I've ordered a new 6" random orbital pneumatic, with a dust collection system (ported to a shopvac)

80...100...120...220 that's it; it's a chopping board! Anything finer grit than that is rather pointless.
Vince; how is it possible no one carries ordinary Titebond? *shock*
DaninVan is offline  
post #5 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 12:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Country: United States
First Name: lee
Posts: 736
 
Default

Dan that sounds like a lot of work to me. I want to glue a bunch of strips of boards or ends of boards and run them through a machine and voila its done.

Isn't end grain tough to sand? To me sanding end grain is very slow to sand but I have never made an end grain cutting board. It is on my list one of these days.

Titebond III is what I would use. No expert here.
coxhaus is offline  
post #6 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
vchiarelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Country: Canada
First Name: Vince
Posts: 3,456
 
Default

@kp91 - Doug, I've read that article - not very definitive in it's answer. I plan to give these boards to the adult ladies in my family - 7 of them. The person with the nut allergy is my nephew's son and there is a good chance that he would eat at all of their houses (especially his grandmother - my sister). I would certainly warn them of the possibility.
@coxhaus - Lee - I've heard that planing end grain is difficult, so I don't plan to plane the ends. I don't have a sanding machine. I plan to cut the strips with a thin kerf blade on my table saw. Given the tight grain on both the walnut and the cherry, the thin kerf make the cut almost "glue line" so I will then use a random orbit sander.
@DaninVan - Dan, hard to believe. I found one small bottle at a Home Hardware. Nothing at the BORG or Lowes or Canadian Tire and the local woodworker store doesn't carry it. TEG's Tools up in Hamilton is a larger store and it's only about 30 minutes from me - easy to get to and they stock it readily.

Some folks call me Vince - other folks call me...........
vchiarelli is offline  
post #7 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 01:14 PM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 15,108
 
Default

I think once dry the Gorilla glue is pretty much inert Vince. I wouldn't worry about using it because only the barest trace amounts should ever wind up in the food. If myou have to flatten I would use skis or a sled and use a router. The issue with walnut being toxic came up before but not sure about the allergen aspect. Nothing definitive about the toxicity was found. The dust is bad but so is oak. Oddly, the trees release a chemical which discourages the growth of other trees around them.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
post #8 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 01:42 PM
Marine Engineer
 
kp91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Country: United States
First Name: Doug
Posts: 4,539
 
Default

@vince , As promised.

From the Gorilla glue customer service

Dear Doug,

Thank you for contacting The Gorilla Glue Company. We appreciate the opportunity to be of service.

Once cured, Gorilla Wood Glue complies with FDA standards for indirect food contact (e.g. salad bowls, cutting boards). As further clarification, it may come into contact with food as part of packaging or processing equipment, but is not intended to be added directly to food.

Again, thank you for contacting us. If we can be of further assistance, please let us know.

Sincerely,

Denise
Consumer Support Representative

Doug
1 John 1:9
Fredericksburg, VA




http://disasterreliefeffort.org/

Last edited by kp91; 11-30-2016 at 01:55 PM.
kp91 is offline  
post #9 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 02:37 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
vchiarelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Country: Canada
First Name: Vince
Posts: 3,456
 
Default

@Cherryville Chuck - thanks Charles
@kp91 - Doug - appreciate you contacting them and posting the response - makes my life so much easier. Trying to get Titebond around my area is harder than pulling teeth.

I've been away for a while but I haven't forgotten how helpful and knowledgeable the folks on this forum are.

Vince

Some folks call me Vince - other folks call me...........
vchiarelli is offline  
post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-30-2016, 03:34 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Stick486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Country: United States
First Name: Stick
Posts: 25,321
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vchiarelli View Post
I've been away for a while ...........

Vince
so welcome back...
did your present help yur game at all???

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

Stick....
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"SNORK Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy”
Stick486 is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Router speeds and climb cutting questions. Duane Bledsoe General Routing 9 01-19-2013 09:19 PM
Inlay in a cutting board dukebeau Table-mounted Routing 1 08-14-2012 04:18 PM
Cutting out Circles and Arcs the Easy Way learnexperience Portable Routing 1 11-26-2011 02:29 PM
Just one more cutting board bobj3 Show N' Tell 2 04-04-2006 04:44 PM
Cutting Board woody Show N' Tell 3 04-02-2006 04:32 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome