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Doug, I really like this idea.
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You probably want to plan the vises into the picture. Wood working vises would be best. Is he right or left handed? For a right handed person the front vise is on the left corner and the end vise is on the right end. A left hander will have vises reversed. The end vise allows for bench dogs which hold long boards. The front vise is the most used vise.

I would look around on craigslist for old US made vises for a cheap price. If you can't find one then the china made vises which use wood blocks are the cheapest.
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You probably want to plan the vises into the picture. Wood working vises would be best. Is he right or left handed? For a right handed person the front vise is on the left corner and the end vise is on the right end. A left hander will have vises reversed. The end vise allows for bench dogs which hold long boards. The front vise is the most used vise.

I would look around on craigslist for old US made vises for a cheap price. If you can't find one then the china made vises which use wood blocks are the cheapest.
Lee, I'm not using woodworking vises, just a regular vise. My son-in-law is a banker and doesn't do woodworking but he is a home owner and I think he needs a work bench
It is interesting to read your comment on the vise placement for right handed verses left. I don't have a vise/bench setup for woodworking but I will one day. I do have a nice bench with a vise.
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That is the 'classic' way of reinforcing the ends of wide plank tables to keep them from cupping. The tenon floats in the stopped dado, anchored only in the middle. The outer pins have slotted holes in the tenon so it can expand and contract.
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Wouldn't two washers do the same thing??
A small washer near the head of the screw with a hole slightly larger than the diameter of the screw and then a fender washer with a larger hole next to the wood. That way all you need to do is drill one round hole to fit the fender washer. No need for an oval hole.
Anything that allows some movement will work. I've heard of using dowels with slotted holes in the tenon also. The idea there is to put one dowel at center that is in a standard round hole to keep the end centered to the bench or table top and do the rest with elongated holes. To keep the end cap tight to the top you drill a hole though the end cap then install it on the tenon and mark it. Then drill the hole in the tenon 1/32" inwards. The pressure when you drive the dowels in keeps the end cap tight.
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Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Anything that allows some movement will work. I've heard of using dowels with slotted holes in the tenon also. The idea there is to put one dowel at center that is in a standard round hole to keep the end centered to the bench or table top and do the rest with elongated holes. To keep the end cap tight to the top you drill a hole though the end cap then install it on the tenon and mark it. Then drill the hole in the tenon 1/32" inwards. The pressure when you drive the dowels in keeps the end cap tight.
Charles, this is great information. Thanks!
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I don't think that you will have a problem just gluing wood to plywood if the grain of the wood is parallel to the edge of the plywood. This to me is the normal way to attach a board to plywood. The expansion in the plywood and in the wood in the direction of the grain is negligible. People often glue a hardwood edge on plywood for appearance or to add a thicker edge.
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I don't think that you will have a problem just gluing wood to plywood if the grain of the wood is parallel to the edge of the plywood. This to me is the normal way to attach a board to plywood. The expansion in the plywood and in the wood in the direction of the grain is negligible. People often glue a hardwood edge on plywood for appearance or to add a thicker edge.

Too late Mike, I'm all in on the spline method. I'll be trying to get something done tomorrow/Tuesday, thanks for the suggestion though. I'll post my results.

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