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Totally agree about the need for good blades. I'm partial to Tenryu but, my son bought me an Infinity for the SCMS. Have yet to try it. If it cuts as well as the Tenryu, Infinity may gain another customer. They're a bit less expensive, too.
But, think I'll stick with Tenryu for the old Skil 77.

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Totally agree about the need for good blades. I'm partial to Tenryu but, my son bought me an Infinity for the SCMS. Have yet to try it. If it cuts as well as the Tenryu, Infinity may gain another customer. They're a bit less expensive, too.
But, think I'll stick with Tenryu for the old Skil 77.
The Tenryu and Infinity should have the same cut quality. It's comparing two blades that can leave a glass finish.

Probably if you have a magnify glass handy you'll give an edge to the Tenryu.

The top of the line Tenryu's will get slightly more cut time between sharpening. You won't see a visual difference in cut quality.

People looking for cheap alternative to the track saws can also look at the Kreg Accu-Cut.

https://www.kregtool.com/store/c48/s...accu-cuttrade/

You're Skill 77 was made to work with the Kreg Track. It's also really shows some of the limitations of using a Circular Saw track vs buying a dedicated Track Saw.

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I have modified my saw by adding the dust pickup nozzle shown here. It picks up a fair amount of the sawdust, but you really need to add a piece of flexible clear plastic over the side of the blade to get the most benefit. The nozzle can be purchased from Eurekazone EZSMART Dust Port There are videos on the web site showing how to install the nozzle.
Tom I have the easy smart track and it works for me but I was wonder do you know if the cheap saw like mike has will work without the adapter? I have the home made perf dog table works great but I cant cut 2 x stock without flipping over to cut and that saw has dust port. I got rid of radial arm saw saved a lot of space.
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If I were going to put dust collection on a conventional circular saw, I'd look carefully at where it starts and where it is flying out. The DC has to move a lot of air and be in that sawdust path to do any good. It is the enclosed blade that makes DC so nice with a track saw. Remember that the blade is coming up through the material, so you want it face down. Depth of cut on a 6 1/2 blade isn't going to be much after accounting for the arbor and arbor nut.
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I guess that there are a couple of theories about dust collection on a circular saw. EZ had a nozzle that attached to the guard at the back of the saw, but now pushes the one for the front (the other is still available on special order) - the theory being that the front is where the sawdust is generated and so you want to pick it up as quickly as possible so it doesn't leak out through the big hole in the side - which makes sense to me as the teeth (and the sawdust) are coming UP from the material being cut. EZ sells a baffle which attaches to the inside front of the guard to help contain this dust - I would think that a two-piece overlapping guard would be much more effective, but it would have to be designed to work at the extremes of depth adjustment.

Like the Sheppach that Mike has, both the Festool and Makita saws have an opening in the guard - small, and I'm thinking that this provides air flow to help circulation to the dust post at the back. I do most of my cutting on an open grid, but I hear people talking that the dust collection is way more effective when you have a sheet of foam on top of it so the DC picks up the sawdust that would otherwise drop to the bottom.
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I'm not sure what you're asking - do you mean the EZ saw base? Mike's (@MT Stringer) saw has a groove in the bottom that fits over the "ridge" on the track, just like the other track saws.

I think most of the track saws will cut through a 2 x 4 with no problem - the Makita has a depth capacity of 2-3/16", the Festool 1-15/16" (both with the saw on the rail, and the Makita more because of the larger blade). Depth capacity has been a complaint for the EZ - you lose 1/2" capacity for the track plus 1/16" or so for the base - which is why some go with the larger 8-1/2" Makita saw to use with the EZ. I'm not sure what my saws will cut with the EZ, I have a Milwaukee mounted on a Tru-Trac base and can shorten an exterior door so that's what I use, the EZ is/was used on plywood. Less now since I bought the MFT table and parf dogs, but I still use the UEG to break down plywood sheets into strips before cross-cutting to size. I get inconsistent results with the Diable blade I've been using and ordered a heavier (wider kerf) blade to see if that solves the problem.
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Gary,

I'm not sure what you're asking - do you mean the EZ saw base? Mike's (@MT Stringer) saw has a groove in the bottom that fits over the "ridge" on the track, just like the other track saws.

I think most of the track saws will cut through a 2 x 4 with no problem - the Makita has a depth capacity of 2-3/16", the Festool 1-15/16" (both with the saw on the rail, and the Makita more because of the larger blade). Depth capacity has been a complaint for the EZ - you lose 1/2" capacity for the track plus 1/16" or so for the base - which is why some go with the larger 8-1/2" Makita saw to use with the EZ. I'm not sure what my saws will cut with the EZ, I have a Milwaukee mounted on a Tru-Trac base and can shorten an exterior door so that's what I use, the EZ is/was used on plywood. Less now since I bought the MFT table and parf dogs, but I still use the UEG to break down plywood sheets into strips before cross-cutting to size. I get inconsistent results with the Diable blade I've been using and ordered a heavier (wider kerf) blade to see if that solves the problem.
I'm not really sure about the Freud blades anymore. Their quality has been on the decline for the past two years. Especially on blade longevity between sharpenings.

Makita has a new brushless 36 Volt Track Saw on the way, XPS01 It looks interesting since they've addressed several isssues with the SP6000.


Even if you're not interested in the XPS01 Cordless model, hopefully this means their will finally be a new model to update the SP6000.

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That Makita cordless track saw looks pretty cool , although I like the dewalt battery system much better as there cordless Miter saw uses two 120vdc batteries .
I find that most cordless tools with large blades like skill saws are basically useless , but maybe they've improved

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It improved big time. Festool cordless work just as well as the 110V versions.

If the Makita works as well as its 110V counterpart it may be nice for some. Seeing how I use a hose to a dust collector anyhow cutting an electric cord does little for me personally, I dont notice the electric cord now.

Maybe Ill try this Makita cordless I have it in my cart at Amazon(587.00 plus tax) and Tool Nut(499.99 no tax) right now. If I pull the trigger I'll let people know how it goes.
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