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Steven Owen 09-05-2017 06:17 PM

Track Saws
 
Before doing some research on track saws, I'll admit I never understood why any would actually want/need a track saw for woodworking?

I always thought Track Saws were primarily designed for contractors cutting long mitres in kitchen counter tops.

I've watched dozens of videos woodworking sites, Twitter and YouTube. The vast array of quite impressive projects you can produce using a track saw.

I also thought Kreg's solution to allow circular saws to run on track would potentially make track saws irrelevant.

I doubt you could ever get the same speed, performance or accuracy using a circular saw on a tracks. The blade on most circular saws are a source of added vibration and tear out.

Festool was one of the only companies making Track saws a few years ago. They were off the charts pricey.

With Triton, Makita, Bosch and Dewalt, etc... making ,track saws there's a lot of great options outside of Festool.

Triton newest revision of their track saw is very refined and gives the Festool Track Saw a run for it's money with the quality of their current design.

I would never considered a track saw before seeing how the track saws could be used on more advanced projects. I always felt my Table Saw and Circular Saw had me covered.

I've seen the light and will probably buy a Track Saw within the next year or two.

What do you guys think of the track saws? Do you think they are worthwhile or do you feel there's other options that work just as well for less money?

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RainMan 2.0 09-05-2017 06:55 PM

I already had a Fe$tool router and there vacuum system , so I broke down and bought there track saw .
I agree , there are others out there , and I'm sure just as good .
I wish I had known about track saws before I bought my table saw, as I never would have gone with a huge 53" fence on my table saw , and instead there 36" fence , saving me room .
The track saw for me is far better for breaking down sheet goods than trying to muscle them on my table saw , and I get far more accurate cuts . The track saw is especially helpful when things are out of square .
The owner of Windsor Plywood tells me he sold his jointer as he gets better results with his track saw . Can't verify that one though.

I have one Fe$tool track that has holes in it . It works on my track saw but it also fits a guide that attaches to my router , and can be used to install those holes for shelving pins .

Unfortunately the tracks are stupid expensive , as I want add a 10 footer , and it's $400

Bob Adams 09-05-2017 07:44 PM

It depends entirely on what type of woodworking you do. I bought the T75 years ago to cut some butcher block countertops for our kitchen remodel. It was the only saw that had the depth of cut I needed, the counter blanks were too large to safely cut on the table saw. I truly thought that the saw would be a "one off" and I would sell it after I was done. Then I discovered that I could use the saw for the sink cut outs, and the uses kept piling up. I use it to help break down the rough lumber I like to use. I hate trying to horse a 3/4 sheet of ply through the table saw, and being able to accurately cut ply, with no secondary cuts is invaluable to me. When I built my shop, the only 2 saws I had available were my miter saw and the track saw. Took me 18 months to get it done, but I never felt a need to dig through my storage that had the rest of my tools. In short I use the track saw for almost every project.
The added benefit to Festool is the "system" it creates. I use the tracks with my router all the time. If you can't tell I am a fan, and even though I am just a hobby woodworker, the saw and tracks have paid for themselves several times.

RainMan 2.0 09-05-2017 08:10 PM

Bob I'm amazed how well the dust collection on the T75 works . One time I used it without being hooked up to its vacuum , and wow what a mistake .
I am so impressed with FesTools dust collection, that I sold my Makita Miter saw and bought Festools instead . It was over 2K after tax , but well worth it imo . I use it in the house with very little issues dust wise , and it has a few unique features that I haven't seen before.
Next FesTool on my list is there tool used for installing Dominos

DesertRatTom 09-05-2017 08:51 PM

I popped for the Triton track saw while at Rockler a couple of weeks ago. There were a couple of factors. First was a ragged cut on some BB ply using my usual method. I just won't horse a sheet of BB through the table saw anymore. Second, I use the 60x60 inch sheets, and the other saws only offer 54 inch and 199+ inch tracks. Triton offers the 54, but also a set of 2, 27 inch tracks you can join. This give me 81 inches of track. A manageable length with plenty of room to clamp (I know they have gooey bottom layers, but I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy). My 4 inch DC has a connector for my 35mm hose that connects to the Triton. BTW, Triton has a pretty decent dust collection system itself. The other deciding factor for me is the quality and thoughtful design of Triton products. Finally, as great as Festools are--and they are great--they are just onreasonably high priced for me. But Festool would probably come with a divorce in my household.

And I like the gold color better than the pale green. How's that for shallow?:wink:

MT Stringer 09-05-2017 09:23 PM

Quote:

I've seen the light and will probably buy a Track Saw within the next year or two.
What? How about Saturday? :surprise::grin::grin::grin:

Mine is a cheepie, but still gets the job done.

Here's a thought. Say you have a board that is bowed. Simply line the track and rip a straight edge! :smile: Now you have a board you can work with. Been there, done that.

Also, I use the track saw mostly to break down sheet good so I can handle them safely on the table saw.

Steven Owen 09-06-2017 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertRatTom (Post 1657577)
I popped for the Triton track saw while at Rockler a couple of weeks ago. There were a couple of factors. First was a ragged cut on some BB ply using my usual method. I just won't horse a sheet of BB through the table saw anymore. Second, I use the 60x60 inch sheets, and the other saws only offer 54 inch and 199+ inch tracks. Triton offers the 54, but also a set of 2, 27 inch tracks you can join. This give me 81 inches of track. A manageable length with plenty of room to clamp (I know they have gooey bottom layers, but I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy). My 4 inch DC has a connector for my 35mm hose that connects to the Triton. BTW, Triton has a pretty decent dust collection system itself. The other deciding factor for me is the quality and thoughtful design of Triton products. Finally, as great as Festools are--and they are great--they are just onreasonably high priced for me. But Festool would probably come with a divorce in my household.

And I like the gold color better than the pale green. How's that for shallow?:wink:

The Triton has a router adapter and relatively econmical miter gate. Triton has surpassed the Makita in overall flexibility and accessories.

Dewalt has a good track saw but they made every propriety.

There's dozens of 3 party accessories available for the Triton, Makita and Festool.

I have look at the types of projects I'm doing. The Triton has the edge over the Festool for miter and bevel cuts more common in furniture design.

The top of the line Festool has the performance with thick cuts that would be impossible. I don't have any projects that will require it.

A lot word working magazines needs redo their tests to include the newest version of the Triton. I would hold it's own against the Festool 55.

I'm slowly buying the Router Incra Table a piece of two at a time from Amazon.

I think the track saw will make life easier when breaking down the hardwood plywood for the interior of the cabinet and drawers.

My Dewalt 7491 Table Saw can handle 32 inches. It works well with fir or birch plywood.

I couldn't image trying to break down a large piece of heavy oak, maple, or walnut plywood with a 7491's tiny table top.

That's were the track saw comes to the recuse.

I keep reading post about guys modifying circular saw for the job. Most circular saws are contractor grade and would make a huge mess out of any laminate or veneers.

Bob Adams 09-06-2017 05:59 AM

I should have been more specific in my first post. When I bought my track saw, Festool was the only brand available. I think any track saw is better than none. I used a circular saw and a piece of ply as a guide for years, and it worked fine for most projects. I found using a circular saw for plunge cuts difficult and unsafe, and that is one area that makes a track saw stand out. Dust collection is another. If I was in the market today, I would definately consider other brands.

Knothead47 09-06-2017 09:23 AM

A local cabinet shop cuts countertops with a sliding miter saw set at 45 degrees. Never saw a track saw used for countertops- used to sell cabinetry and countertops.


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