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In some of my travels I've come across several uses for story boards. One person defined story rods for large projects, story boards for medium sized projects and detail boards for small projects. How do you use them and how do you define them?

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Greetings Allthunbs, been wondering where you were, did not see many posts from you of late. I trust things are going reasonably well these days. It may be that I have not been as consistent here as before I started on the basement project. And now that has expanded by about 2X maybe more.

The plastic to the right will become a permanent wall with 7' French door, Once that is done I will move the garage 11.5' assembly down, move lawn mowers and such up, an then move every thing else into the new area. That will make room for the new bath on that end. To confusing to lay it all out, gives me a headache and back ache.
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I just got semi-proficient with a story STICK! And now you ask about a whole board??

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Greetings Allthunbs, been wondering where you were, did not see many posts from you of late. I trust things are going reasonably well these days. It may be that I have not been as consistent here as before I started on the basement project. And now that has expanded by about 2X maybe more.
When Bob flamed me I figured I'd pull out of the forum. I pulled all my essays and I am looking for a new home for them. But then, why worry about a turkey when eagles are far more interesting.

That aside, my time for posting is limited for the next while. We're in the process of moving to "the land of the Great Manitou."

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The plastic to the right will become a permanent wall with 7' French door, Once that is done I will move the garage 11.5' assembly down, move lawn mowers and such up, an then move every thing else into the new area. That will make room for the new bath on that end. To confusing to lay it all out, gives me a headache and back ache.
Nicely done. Are you going to put a vapour barrier over the stud walls? I assume that they are outside walls. Are you going to make the french doors yourself? If so, I'm in dire need of plans for french doors.

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I just got semi-proficient with a story STICK! And now you ask about a whole board??
Hi Gene: just in case you are proficient with a story STICK, I'll bite. Tell us about your story stick. What size, shape, do you use all 4 faces and 2 ends? What priority for each side? How do you do layouts from it - directly or do you use it as a reference tool and use a ruler and scribe?

Gotta go

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Although one might say that every board has its own story, and few less than horrific from the board's perspective, I'm assuming you're using "story board" in the project-planning, sequence of operations perspective. (?)

When planning a project, I try to think about the sequence of operations involved in the construction, and then organize them appropriately for both convenience and safety. I make notes (a story script?).

If I'm also going to write a tutorial, supported by photographs, the notes describing each step might translate to the individual photos required to properly illustrate the steps or concepts involved. The images then become the story board, as the phrase is used in an editorial sense.

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Although one might say that every board has its own story, and few less than horrific from the board's perspective, I'm assuming you're using "story board" in the project-planning, sequence of operations perspective. (?)

When planning a project, I try to think about the sequence of operations involved in the construction, and then organize them appropriately for both convenience and safety. I make notes (a story script?).

If I'm also going to write a tutorial, supported by photographs, the notes describing each step might translate to the individual photos required to properly illustrate the steps or concepts involved. The images then become the story board, as the phrase is used in an editorial sense.
Hi Ralph:

Close but no T-shirt. You are speaking of a story board as in a publication or movie etc.

The story rod/board/stick accomplishes something similar but specifically for construction or building something. For example, I found a demonstration on the 'net where the builder used a story board to layout a kitchen counter. He indicated where each drawer/shelving module would go, where the water and electrical was located and he "adjusted" his drawer/shelf units according to the story board. He indicated he used a story rod for framing applications, a story board for large projects like kitchens and bathrooms and a detail board for small items like a piece of furniture etc.

He then took his story board and used it to create the dimensions for each piece as he built it. There are two philosophies here. First, you use the story board and mark your cuts directly from the story board. The other philosophy says that you should take your measurements from the story board and copy them to the workpiece to make your cut.

I'm getting the idea but without people to talk to, it is impossible to learn.

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Gotta go

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As I said, semi proficient. I only use one side and only a part of that.
Size does matter. But sometimes I'll clamp two together if one won't satisfy the need. In all honesty, I rarely use a ruler and my wife acts as my scribe. At least I can read her writing.
BTW, Good to see you. Where is it your'e relocating to?

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Hi Ralph:

Close but no T-shirt. You are speaking of a story board as in a publication or movie etc.

The story rod/board/stick accomplishes something similar but specifically for construction or building something. For example, I found a demonstration on the 'net where the builder used a story board to layout a kitchen counter. He indicated where each drawer/shelving module would go, where the water and electrical was located and he "adjusted" his drawer/shelf units according to the story board. He indicated he used a story rod for framing applications, a story board for large projects like kitchens and bathrooms and a detail board for small items like a piece of furniture etc.

He then took his story board and used it to create the dimensions for each piece as he built it. There are two philosophies here. First, you use the story board and mark your cuts directly from the story board. The other philosophy says that you should take your measurements from the story board and copy them to the workpiece to make your cut.

I'm getting the idea but without people to talk to, it is impossible to learn.

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Oh oh, I really thought you were referring to a cinematic device, hence my rather off hand posts. Sorry.
Yep, I use a stick just as you described above. And I really have found it necessary to clamp two or more 8' sticks together for some kitchens. Especially if the customer is a long way from my home. I always back it up with written dimensions in those cases. And yes, the wife often accompanies me.
I prefer to mark my cuts directly from the stick. Maybe "mark" isn't totally accurate in every instance. I really want to lay out the cut at the TS using the stick at the saw. No pencils involved.
I started using a stick after relying on blue prints (for the first and last time) for my measurements, only to find that a wall had been moved between the time I accepted the commission and when we delivered the kitchen cabinets.

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As I said, semi proficient. I only use one side and only a part of that.
Size does matter. But sometimes I'll clamp two together if one won't satisfy the need. In all honesty, I rarely use a ruler and my wife acts as my scribe. At least I can read her writing.
BTW, Good to see you. Where is it your'e relocating to?
Ok, question here. How do you mark and reassemble the boards when you get back to the shop? What do you put on your boards? Do you go so far as to indicate variations in wall straightness? What other information do you include? Do you do a separate story board for vertical measurements and one for horizontal or do you even do them for x-y-z planes?

Thanks. We're heading "back home." Back to rural Quebec. Just scrambling right now trying to resolve differences between Civil laws in Quebec and Common laws in Ontario, Public Notaries in Quebec and Barristers and Solicitors in Ontario, metric/British imperial/and two French Royal measuring systems, two languages and two different ways at looking at life.

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