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Don't, and I mean DO NOT make your benchdogs out of metal - at least the bits that stick up above the surface of the bench. You will live to regret it if you do.
Leaves marks on the material being held I’m assuming?

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Don't, and I mean DO NOT make your benchdogs out of metal - at least the bits that stick up above the surface of the bench. You will live to regret it if you do.
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Why not?
Because you run the risk of hitting metal with a blade, plane iron, etc.

I made some very simple dogs for my bench out of 1/4" plywood and a short piece of 3/4" dowel as in the photo.

You can also see a metal dog from Lee Valley in the back of my picture. That bench dog can be slid down below the surface of the work piece and I can also push it down into the hole so it's out of the way or remove it completely.
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Because you run the risk of hitting metal with a blade, plane iron, etc.
No biggie, I'd have no issues with avoiding the metal.

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No biggie, I'd have no issues with avoiding the metal.
Perhaps, but there might be some less experienced new woodworkers who could have issues avoiding the metal.
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Isn't the Parf Dogs made in England made from metal? I am assuming they are good bench dogs.
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Isn't the Parf Dogs made in England made from metal? I am assuming they are good bench dogs.
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I made mine from eucalyptus single piece - very strong & hard but not enough to put a big dent in your cutting edge on the chisel/plane should you happen to clip the benchdogs. Accidents do happen. I never knocked a glass over in 40 years .... and then I knocked over 3 in a couple of months.

Don't fancy spending a couple of hours regrinding and honing a blade if I don't have to. YMMV - obviously.
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I think that the English started using the bench dogs and they made theirs 20mm. When we started making bench dogs we made ours 3/4" or 19mm. You can buy 200mm dogs at a place called "Lee Valley" in Canada and they will ship them to you.
Don't think it was the English, it was the Festool company. Their MFT uses 20mm holes, and it's quite a handy work surface. There are various jigs out there to help create perfectly spaced holes if you want to make your own top (Paulk is one such example).

If you're using the dogs as intended on an MFT there's no much chance of hitting them. I mean, sure, anything done wrong can break something, but this is true of any tool. I'd MUCH rather have the accuracy of the machined metal dogs for use as a reference straight edge, or even several angles with the right stepping of dogs.

One downside to a top full of holes is it means little stuff can fall through the holes if you're using the top for something other than making cuts. To that end I found it useful to make some 3D-printed caps that plug into the holes. I use 4 of these and a sheet of butcher paper to give me a clean, disposable and hole-free surface when I need to paint, glue-up or assemble stuff.

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Wouldn't be anything preventing from making the plugs taller for use as a dog, but the metal ones are so much more stable/secure.
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Don't, and I mean DO NOT make your benchdogs out of metal - at least the bits that stick up above the surface of the bench. You will live to regret it if you do.
I was thinking of using an aluminum L-bracket as a fence, otherwise wood and silicone rubber only (so that it doesn't leave marks). I might cover the aluminum with masking tape, though, to avoid any possible marks.

Would you mind sharing your experience with metal bits? Discoloration? Dents?

EDIT: I was a bit too hasty with my reply and I noticed already that the answer is already there.

Great idea with the caps! And thanks for all your replies I'll try to come up with something more tangible this week.

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