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I'm doing a project of converting an old school cafeteria into a theater. Have the lighting up and the dimmers are working, the AV stuff is in place and working so our speakers can do powerpoints galore. Projectors are all working and the houselights are on a remote controlled dimmer.

Next is enlarging the platform so we can stage plays on it. Simple construction with 4x8 MDF set on 4x4s. Problem is that the darn things are are too heavy for me to horse into place. So I made a sheet good mover in the pix. It holds the piece(s) almost vertical and the bar across the bottom is movable so the sheets won'd slip out easily. My old Dakota has 2x4s spanning the truck bed so the HD guys can load them up for me, and then by placing the cart up next to the truck I can pull the sheet off, and guide it down onto the cart. Roll the sheet in, tilt it over and on top of the 4x4 supports. Problem solved. My plan includes 6 of these sheets for a 16 x 20 "stage." The cart is built on a HF furniture dolly--cheap wheels.

After that's done, I'll make some theatrical flats on each side of the stage to make a backstage area. They'll fold up out of the way for non theatrical events. I think I'll have to add two more lighting units, but there is ample power for them. My forced retirement was awful until I took on this project. We type A's just have to be doing something. I don't attend the church, but the pastors are getting enthusiastic about the project as well.
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They are lucky to have you to work for them Tom, 4x8s on 4x4s is darn heavy so I hope you have plenty of strong helpers. James jj777746.

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look forward to seeing the competed work
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MDF for a floor? I wouldn't, even considering the 4 X 4 support.

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MDF for a floor? I wouldn't, even considering the 4 X 4 support.

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Yup, but I have to match what's there already and the MDF has held up OK. Will be covering it with carpet since it also serves for music events. I'll probably increase the number of 4x4s under each sheet to beef it up a bit. My biggest concern will be supporting the edges as more and more people step on and off the platform.

The place can be set up theater style, or with round tables that seat 8. Our group has grown since we moved and even faster since the project started.

Surprisingly, the place looks pretty much the same as before the project started, except for the lights. Didn't want to change anything about how the Church uses it. But I will have to hold some training so other groups learn to use the new stuff.

Have two high school drama teachers excited about performing for us, and a couple of our best local theater groups excited about coming to preview and promote their shows. One just did "Little Shop of Horrors", which is a great little musical, but many seniors are not familiar with the play. I think we can form a spin off bunch that go see shows together. The side effect of this is the senior group, Seniors With Inquiring Minds (SWIM) is growing every week. You can find it on Facebook.

I don't think the stage will work for dance groups, but we'll see. It's pretty small for dancers. But choirs and musical groups will like the place, which is called The Venue. Going to have a big, visible sign placed on the front of the building so people can find it more easily. I'm really enjoying this. But I do need someone to help with some heavy lifting, not good for aging backs.

I plan to train some Church volunteers on how to promote events at The Venue using simple public relations methods. Which will tap what I've trained doctors to do for 36 years and give some empty nest moms a way to make a living if they wish. Once a business coach, always a business coach, I guess.
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If the floor is going to be covered with carpet anyway, than why not use plywood?
I'm with Charley.
Also re the 4x4s, hopefully they're on a minimum of 16"ctrs.?
The 4" width isn't really important, it's the depth of the joist that matters; you might be better off with 2x4s on 12'' ctrs.
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The 4" width isn't really important, it's the depth of the joist that matters; you might be better off with 2x4s on 12'' ctrs.
Matching the height of the existing sections is the key, and I think 2x4s on 12 inch centers would cost about the same and be stronger. I guess if there's any difference in height, I could shim it, or trim it. We'll see.
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Tom, when ya gonna learn? Lift heavy stuff? That's what the football team is for. YOU supervise, and don't lift anything heavier than your coffee.
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One just did "Little Shop of Horrors", which is a great little musical, but many seniors are not familiar with the play.
I remember that old black and white movie. a talking plant eating people. jack nicholson going to the dentist. it was so bad it was good

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