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I would check for any local machine tool companies. For example, Barbo Machine Tool, barbomachinery.com, in Portland, Oregon.

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Brian I think I would look into buying industrial equipment because of the number of hours a day you are running that sander.

I do agree with the Powermatic sander, heavy well built and made for production use.

Most hobby machines aren't built to run the number of hours you need to run one so you'll be back looking for another one in a couple of years.

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I've had a Rikon 6x48 w 10" disk since 2008, never stalled, use HF Belts and disk due to pricing and everyone that has purchased off my recommendation still likes me. If you currently have a 1hp motor and it is stalling, you have other problems, rust on the platen, dry lube or grit in the bearings, etc. or a weak 1hp motor.
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the OP want's a production machine...
he won't get that w/ a HF nor a home made one...
But he never said what he actually will be doing with one, and if using it on metal or wood. All we actually know is he wants it to be used from about 2 hours to 6 hours at a time.

I am personally aware of a contractor that buys HF tools that will be used for basically 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week. Used like that they last about 3 weeks. Not long you say, but considering the fact that the same tool sold by the name brand companies cost about twice the HF tool, and last about 4 weeks. So, he spends the same amount of money, but get 6 weeks of work rather than only 4. At times HF rocks. I've got HF power tools I bought over 20 years ago, with the idea of buying better when they wore out, or broke. And still use them, because they never broke or wore out.

Personally, I would make one, out of wood. Use it, see where the weak spots are, if any, then make one out of metal, with the weak spots addressed. Then if that worked out, make another, as a standby machine. Then you can do maintenance on one machine, while putting the standby machine into production. Then when that machine needs maintenance, repeat. Should never have any down time that way.

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Ok, so after hunting for replacement bushings, no one carries them. Not even a company that has sold bushings for 75 years. A local machinist said that to make new oil impregnated bushings will be around $100-200 for the time. So, rather than replacing parts, I'm just going to upgrade. A rather big upgrade. I'm looking at the powermatic 31a 1 Phase belt sander. It's quite a bit different from what I currently have, but I think in the long run, the power and reliability will pay off in speed/performance and maintenance.

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I'm looking at the powermatic 31a 1 Phase belt sander. It's quite a bit different from what I currently have, but I think in the long run, the power and reliability will pay off in speed/performance and maintenance.

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very good thinking..
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Good point. I can't make any of a the parts, but both motors turn fine. The one just doesn't have much power. Its a 1 HP, but it wont keep the sanding belt turning when you apply some pressure.



The other one needs new bushing on the front roller. I dont know if the shaft is worn, but there is a lot of play between the shaft and bushings. They should have been replaced years ago, but just didnt know how...but now its at the point that it need to be fixed or replaced.
My Craftsman 6×48 & 9" disc came with a 3/4 hp and you think yours is underpowered. I guess a 1hp won't fix it. I could probably buy a used one for the cost of a 1 1/2 hp motor. Some small sanders have a graphite plate under the belt to reduce friction under load. I saw 6" graphite impregnated canvas sold by the foot to be used under a belt. I wonder if it would help.

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If your belt sander does not run and bogs the belt down it would seem you have a drive problem. If the drive belt is stretched the belt will stop or bog down with even light pressure on the top of the belt. A 1HP motor should make a 6" x 48" belt drive just fine unless you are trying to grind metal. The 1 HP motor is ok adequate if it if it is working ok. You might try to get one of those link belts that are customizable. The link belts run smoother you can always remove a link to adjust. Most belt sanders have a limited amount of adjustment. If you decide to change the motor do not get one too big. Remember the whole system was designed around a 1 HP motor. Also check your drive pulley. Sometimes they have a set screw that is loose and is slipping and sometimes they are keyed and the key has sheared off. With the pulley loose and/or the key sheared the pulley may be slipping on the motor or belt drive shafts.



Replacing the whole sander for a new one is one way but it is always cheaper to fix. Rikon has a 6" x 48" sander as well as some already mentioned above. Stay away from Harbor Freight. Powermatic is nice but very expensive. Unless you are really making money with your sander it would seem best to rebuild or fix as required.



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My Craftsman uses a 2" and a 2 1/2" pulley. They are below the minimum size for a link belt. I don't know what size the OP has. I am going to a cog belt for a better wrap. If you stall the sanding belt it is obvious whether the drive belt is slipping. Mine just stalls the motor.

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" ...A local machinist said that to make new oil impregnated bushings will be around $100-200 for the time."
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Others may disagree, but I detest sintered metal bearings/bushings. IBM used to use them a lot in their equipment, back in the '60s and '70s. They were a maintenance nightmare.
They were porous by design; not a brilliant concept where there's any kind of dust.

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I saw 6" graphite impregnated canvas sold by the foot to be used under a belt. I wonder if it would help.

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Yes it makes a difference. Treadmills use the same thing under their belts.

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