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Love threads like this one. Thanks for the review, and even better, the suggestion to use a Fernco coupler is good, saved my tool/bacon a couple of times as well when trying to mix brands of fittings.

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The flex coupler is an interesting idea. The dust elbow on the sander is a 2 1/2" which fits the shop vac as a friction fit perfectly but finding other fittings in that size is a chore and there doesn't seem to be much variety as the only application for that size appears to be for a DC system. If I could find a 1/8th bend I'd attach that to the existing elbow and I think that would put it right about where I want.

As I said before, I strongly suggested to King that they just put the elbow in the box loose. If my vac has a reliable friction fit into the elbow then it's likely that the elbow would friction fit onto the top cover so why glue it and limit your options? Ray may be right about them wanting to keep it away from the feed belt but I don't think too many people would point it that direction because it would be in the way when you were on the out feed side.

Ray, the King is the same as a number of other machines including some of Delta's lower end tools. There may some small differences in the machines but the castings, operating mechanisms, and usually the motor are all the same.

Dan I haven't thought about trying any of their small powered tools, they remind me a little too much of Freud's power tools (possibly Felisati made) and I had a less than satisfying experience with a big Freud plunge. But I'll keep what you said in mind as they are much cheaper than most other brands here.
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The K/C sure looks like the Performax/Jet 16/32 The patent must have run out on them.

@Cherrville Chuck how does the feed conveyor track on yours? I have had 3 Perfornax's, a10/20, two 16/32's, they all had tracking problems. The only one I finally fixed was the 10/20 by replacing both rollers and all the bearings and bearing holders. The 16/32 I never did get to track right. I ended up just putting up with it and resetting the belt when it tracked too far to the left. But I went thru a couple of conveyor belts.
Now I have the Supermax, and love the sander, but have the same tracking problems, and in less than a year have ruined the belt, just ordered a new one last week. In the mean time I read on another forum, that a fellow wood worker experiencing the same problem on his Performax built a crown in his rollers front and back with duct tape and it cured his problem. So I did the same the other day, and it seems to be holding the position of the belt so far, so I have high hopes this will cure the problem.
BTW the conveyor is basically the same as a Performax,except the drive is on the off feed side instead of the in feed side. it uses the same conveyor belt.
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I'll let you know Herb. So far it's been good enough but it is tracking to the left and I need to adjust it before it goes any farther. I may need to see a picture or at least get a better description of how and how much tape you used to build the crown.

As far as the machine, I'm guessing that most sellers use that lift yoke. It would have to be cast and machines and that would be expensive. Same goes for King's planers. It uses the standard 16'-20'/min gearbox and frame and bed you see on most other planers. Lunchbox planers are the same thing. FWW did a test on a bunch and the only one totally different from the rest was the DW735. The 734 and a Ridgid were identical to each other too (in second place to the 735). All the rest used the same motor and most of the case frames were also the same. Minor differences were things like return rollers on top, different crank handle, different colors, etc. Even if they were assembled in different factories a lot of the parts were jobbed out to the same component suppliers. In the end the differences may be in small things like different choices of bearings, switches, and maybe in the QC on the assembly line.
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I've noticed that the two readily available models here, close to Vancouver, (through KMS Tools and BusyBee) have different ratings for the small conveyor motors. Other than that they appear identical.
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Well I received the new cover from King today and installed it. It only took a few minutes. The angle of the dust fitting on the new cover is very close to where I wanted it. The new cover came quickly and was well packed. King gets an A for customer service. I couldn't have expected anything better from them.
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Well I received the new cover from King today and installed it. It only took a few minutes. The angle of the dust fitting on the new cover is very close to where I wanted it. The new cover came quickly and was well packed. King gets an A for customer service. I couldn't have expected anything better from them.
Is that a 2 1/2" dia. ? all the drum sanders I have had have a 4" straight up dust port. But as far as the small port goes it is plenty adequate and fits a shop vac.

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Yes it's a 2 1/2 Herb which is perfect as I put the machine on casters right away because I don't have the open floor space for a permanent location and I have to use my larger shop vac for the DC.

Daninvan I checked the fitting diameter just above the collar and it won't mesh with another elbow. It's about a 1/16th different (larger) so maybe a flex couple might work but I'd have to try one to see.

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