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Can anybody advise what is the best band saw for a newbie? I want to start new project so I need the advise.
If I want to learn from online which is the best website for me. Thanks
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Some more info would help!!
1st Where are you?? In the states? European Union? Oz?
2nd What type of "project"? Bandsaw boxes? Furniture? Trinkets? What?
3rd What type of wood are you planning on using?
4th What's the budget?
5th In what environment are you going to use the saw? Garage? Basement? Apartment?
6th Will noise be a factor?

As I said----MORE INFO !!!!
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Welcome to the Forum...this is the best site for learning from others simply by asking questions.

Bandsaws are mostly selected depending on the projects desired. Smaller bandsaws, 9"/10"/12", with smaller blades are generally for smaller projects like boxes, etc...

Bigger bandsaws are used for more advanced projects and preparing wood...resawing, etc.

Youtube has many videos on how bandsaws are used and the types of projects that can be delivered...that may help you select the size.

This thread by @TwoSkies57 https://www.routerforums.com/tool-re...2-bandsaw.html describes his research based on his needs. There are many other threads where members describe their experiences with their saws.

Generally, if you will be using larger pieces of wood for your project a 14" will be better.

Best advice is to buy the best bandsaw your budget will allow...

Good luck...
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Welcome to the forum NA.
No expert ,but I have seen senior members here highly recommending Laguna. I was going to buy a General International bandsaw , but after researching Laguna, I think it’s a far better product .

As others mentioned, a little more detail of your requirements may help
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No matter what you plan on doing get the best saw that you can afford. The two contenders are Laguna and Rikon. For me I have gone with Rikon. Seeing the two side by side the Rikon just looks like a better saw. The specs are almost the same and when the Rikon goes on sale you can often save hundreds. The biggest thing is the warranty. Laguna has a two year warranty and is picky with it. Here is what they say " We require that the defective item/part be returned to Laguna Tools with the complaint. Any machines returned to Laguna Tools must be returned with packaging in the same manner in which it was received."


Rikon has a 5 year warranty and when and if you have a problem you call them up tell them what it is and they ship you out a new part. Before sending it they will talk you through the troubleshooting. I had a tech actually take a sander apart in order to walk me through installing a new bearing.


Grizzly is another choice but it's in a league of its own and not a good league.
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Welcome. I'm going to assume you live in the USA and talk about stuff I've used. I have two band saws, the Laguna Fourteen/12 and a 12 inch Rikon. The Laguna replaced a Delta 14 inch I had for some time. The Laguna lives in my garage and is used mainly for resawing, slicing thick wood in half or cutting thin pieces off of thick chunks. In my shop I have the 12 inch (much smaller) Rikon band saw I use all the time for minor cuts, cleaning out cuts, trimming corners, making band saw boxes. The Laguna was about $1,100 on sale, the Rikon was about $300.

Rikon makes a darn good 14 inch bandsaw for a little less than the Laguna, and I think Grizzly makes one a little cheaper than that. There are two types of band saws, the old style have a cast iron frame on the left side, and usually come with a 6 inch height limit. A couple of companies offer a 6 inch extender for a 12 inch resaw capacity, but some folks report it is a little bit flexible because of the additional joint.

The other type is far more modern and probably originated with the European style Lagunas (made in Italy). These have a steel tube on the left side and the wheels are built to connect to this very stiff frame. A light steel box surrounds the top and bottom wheel. These type saws usually have fairly effective sawdust collection ports. The Laguna uses small "Cool" blocks to guide the blade and hold it in position. You can also buy roller guides for most saws, made by Carter tools. These have roller bearings on each side of the blade, and one behind. The trick is to have these guides about a dollar bill's space between blade and roller. The rollers will burn up quickly if they touch. So even though they wear out quicker, I prefer the cool block blade guides.

My smaller Rikon has some nice features, in particular, the roller type guides for the handling the blade, which are better than the old block guides on cheap saws. You can put a half inch blade in it, down to 1/8th. I think that tiny blade is too easy to break, so I use a 3/16th blade in it. I have actually resawn some wood in the Rikon, although it is limited to about a 5-6 inch height.

I am completely spoiled by the Laguna saw. It is built to stand up to serious use, super heavy bearings on the wheels, able to resaw up to a 13 inch piece of hardwood. Runs on 110 volts but also can be run on 220 (Reconnectng wires is required). It handles up to a 3/4 inch wide blade, which is required for resawing, but nice also for ripping a fairly long piece of wood. The picture shows my Laguna with the light I mounted on it. It is a good looking machine.

My table saw is also a Laguna, and I live not far from their headquarters and show room. Went there with an engineer friend to select his saw, and he was amazed at the construction and in particular the heavy duty bearings. So I sold my old Delta, saved my money and bought the Laguna on sale at Rockler.

Generally it's a good idea to have a friend help you set up any saw. Those suckers are heavy (their weight doubles if you're older). However, Laguna has a set of 14 videos online you can use to assemble the saw single handed. I found it was very doable if you do it step by step as clearly instructed.

Speaking of instruction: Alex Snodgrass works for Carter tools and put out a demo years ago on how to set up your bandsaw. It's the bible on the topic and you will likely watch it several times, most of us have.
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I have attached a pdf about the 17 major things that helped me speed up the learning curve on woodworking. It's long, but has pictures. It may help you avoid a few expensive lessons I paid to learn. Wrong tool purchases for example. I hope you find it helpful. The big thing to me is that most folks collect their shop full of tools over a long time, not all at one.

It also has a very important section on sawdust collection. When you hang around older carpenters, you discover many have COPD and other breathing problems, not from smoking, but from inhaling the fine sawdust. Once that fine stuff gets in your lungs, it doesn't come out! So invest in and wear a dust mask. Read the section on sawdust collection. You can get by with a shop vac with something called a Dust Deputy (a cyclone dust separator attached to a bucket). The bucket catches the lions share of the sawdust so it doesn't clog the shop vac filter. Home Depot has a small dust separator that has gotten good reviews and is somewhat less than the Dust Deputy. It's in one of the pitures below.

EPA says home shops are often have the most dangerous dust levels, far worse than commercial shops. So buy and wear a dust mask (3M makes a good one with a small exhale valve). I have and always use a Rockler positive pressure mask shown in the pictures below. I keep a couple of sets of rechargable batteries on hand that will last 3-4 hours.

Hope all this is helpful. Buying tools is a bit traumatic, but this is a good place to get feedbak on choices.
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Can anybody advise what is the best band saw for a newbie? I want to start new project so I need the advise.
If I want to learn from online which is the best website for me. Thanks
I'm also in the serious market for a bandsaw. Here's my advice.

You're fortunate that youtube has hours of people using bandsaws -different models, styles, setups, brands, and plenty of opinions.

Spend your time watching as much as you can. Some of those you'll see are idiots; other cans show you more than you'll learn in a lifetime of forum-hopping.

Alex Snodgrass is good; so is Paul Sellers, The Wood Whisperer, and others can teach you what they use, why they chose it, and how THEY use it.

I recently decided to purchase a table saw. I looked at everything from SawStop, Powermatic, Grizzly, and others.

But after deciding what I wanted to do and needed rather than what others told me what they wanted and needed, I went with a Bosch 4100-10 new for about $500.00 delivered.

For now, it's what I need. I made a zero-clearance insert, use 7.25 circular saw blades, updated the miter gauge, got good measuring devices, excellent Freud blades, and make clean cuts with little to no tear out.

For less than 1/4 of the cost of a SawStop, I have a table saw and set-up that suits me.

The same for bandsaws. I'm looking at Powermatics, Grizzly, Laguna, and others and am willing to pay about $2 - 2500 total for what I want. But more important, I'm buying what I need, not relying on someone's else's desires or bias.

Avoid recliner-chair woodworkers, who know statistics, can copy-and-paste charts, and offer pronouncements as if they're God's chosen BandSaw Prophet. Some haven't touched a bandsaw since Nixon was president.

Avoid the advice of those who shout, "Go big or go home." Too often their advice is wrapped around status, but have little to offer in practicality. For some who use that phrase or braggadocio, I think many have been repeatedly told that by their wives.

Take your time, buy with your head and not your heart. Forums are important, but the modern ability to actually see bandsaws in action and learn from great teachers is better. Forums serve well for specific questions about technique and ideas, but youtube gives you the education that forums cannot.

It's up to you to run your own show; don't let anyone else, including me, subvert your best interests that only you can discover.

Spend your time wisely now to save money later.

Best of luck.

Steve

PS. Look for a used bandsaw. I let people know, search Craigslist, estate sales ads in hopes of finding a great used saw. Should I not find one in the next couple of months I'm ready to buy new.

Avoid the used Ryobis, Ridgids, Craftsman, and big-box store brands unless they're gifts. Then play with them but plan on getting a better saw.

For informative bandsaw reviews on this forum look at Desert Rat Tom, and the gentleman who bought a Grizzly. They're well-written, specific, and well-reasoned for the individual's needs.
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What brands do you have available in Bangladesh Akash?

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