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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-22-2019, 07:05 PM
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Paul you have an Edelbrock router table? Cool. I liked their racing parts.
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@tulowd Paul, Good points. I own two Woodpecker items. One is the router table mounting plate for my Triton. Thick, strong, twist lock inserts, and nice looking to boot. The other item is their fence gauge, which has enabled me to get everything parallel, miter slot, blade, fence. Also discovered my fence is about 3-4 thousandths irregular along its length. Negligible, but nice to know how accurate it really is. I do like precision, at least as much as is possible with wood. The gauge is also kind of handsome.
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I own the Sliding T Bevel and angle gauge.
https://www.woodpeck.com/onetime-too...late-2016.html

Tbh, I thought the anodizing could have been a little better. But a solid tool overall.

I haven't seen anything else that I'd actually get my moneys worth, or wasn't over priced.

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Don't forget Bridge City. Or it that another league entirely? My favorite square is a 25 year old 4" Bridge City, that was about $60 back then.

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Hey Tom: I just missed out buying one of those dial indicator gages...... by a smidge, lol ...price was epic - $60 USD! I'm an idiot. Altho I ended up buying a set of the Kreg setup bars from him for $30. Virtually brand new - his father in law was a former CEO and machinist so nothing but the best and in pristine condition. Still kicking myself for not reacting quickly enough.
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The Woodpecker anodizing is meant to be pretty and protect; kind of like these high current Orion amplifiers I collect. 30 years old and still pretty as can be, IMO.


Industrial level durability calls for hard anodizing, which IIRC is usually black or clear. Jesem does this. My fuel pump georotor, housing and the aircraft hose ends in my car are manufactured this way.

I think their router table, lift and fence offer good value; it's only a little more than the Kreg and Jessem and are way more robust. The lift is peerless with the quick full travel and the fence looks like it could go on a shaper.

Other stuff for sure is big bread for what it is.
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There's a lot of wisdom in Paul's post. I do have a few of Woodpecker's tools and am happy that I have them. The quality and workmanship is very evident. I had a friend chidding me when I got into astronomy and imaging. I have a 12.5" RC professional grade telescope and dedicated CCD camera fro imaging and neither cost was "reasonable" for most people. Well astronomy and imaging isn't for most people but the chide was actually funny when I turned the subject to his saltwater aquarium and his love of playing golf. But that was of course different. I was amazed how much he had invested in the saltwater aquarium even before he added the coral and fish. And you can't/wouldn't want to eat the fish if it died. Well maybe you could but that's on you. For most it's the flush. And don't get me started what people spend to play golf and then drink beer afterwards. So I guess it really is a personal thing and one that is unique to each person. Evidently there are enough people who feel it is worthwhile or these companies would not be in business regardless how great their product is.

That said, some who have that skill to be able to create excellent flawless work with the bare minimum tools are to be envied. Most of us need a bit more help and quality tools is very beneficial. I never thought I would be buying Festool tools but have acquired both a refurbished track saw which I absolutely love and a new Domino 500 which was acquired using my PayPal account and special 24 month no interest payments. I have no issue using other people's money free to acquire something I want. Otherwise I probably would have made a few monthly payments costing me even more. The kicker with the Domino is that spending that much opens a huge amount of joinery that would have taken me a much longer time to learn to do by hand but it comes with only one of the five cutters and no tenons. So yes, I'll buy what I see the real value in for me and there will always be someone who just won't get it and that's OK.

It reminds me of a Rikon bandsaw ad I saw at one of the retail stores. They list the bandsaw and then all the upgrades. Am I buying the right tool if I need to consider upgrades then or soon after? I have nothing against Rikon but why not have entry level and then fully equipped models. You bought a model then the upgrades so now you have parts no longer being used and inferior? Not the best spending option is it? Of course the whole thing really boils down to if you're deriving an income from your efforts or it's a hobby. Then the picture is different altogether. A business has tax advantages and costs passed onto the buyer so it becomes a bit easier to justify. For the rest of us it becomes more a question of disposable income. It's a lot like my study on hand planes. I like the idea of learning the art of using hand tools but I'm not about to let loose of my jointer, planner, table saw, band saw, and so on but I can go the hybrid shop route and that offers a bit of everything. Hand planes for those boards I can't run on my 8" jointer or 13" planner, or for highly figured woods. Even sanding has problems with that sometimes but buying high quality hand planes isn't cheap. There's Veritas which are made in China but have very high quality control, Lie-Nielsen made in Maine, and Clifton made in Sheffield, England. They all come highly recommended but are expensive $$$$. $350 for a jointer plane seems to be about the norm as well as the smoothing planes. Again, justified? Only you can say for yourself. If bought and used properly, cared for properly, you'll have a heirloom to pass on and would last a lifetime. Of course that would mean more to me if I wasn't starting that search now at 65 Maybe yard sales and estate sales would be a good place to start looking for those old cherished Stanley planes as long as you feel confident to restore them and get needed parts.

Just saying. If it makes your life easier, is more safe, does a better job, you can afford or justify it, doesn't cost you any peace with your better half, doesn't take away from other obligations ( I think you may be sensing a theme here) go for it. If for a moment you feel you may have regret afterwards, hold off a bit and see how much it tugs at you. If it would just end up sitting on a shelf proudly displayed and seldom if ever used.....well that's another story.
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Veritas are made in Canada Steve
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@tulowd Paul, Good points. I own two Woodpecker items. One is the router table mounting plate for my Triton. Thick, strong, twist lock inserts, and nice looking to boot. The other item is their fence gauge, which has enabled me to get everything parallel, miter slot, blade, fence. Also discovered my fence is about 3-4 thousandths irregular along its length. Negligible, but nice to know how accurate it really is. I do like precision, at least as much as is possible with wood. The gauge is also kind of handsome.
Tom , I purchased that same gauge in order to check my table saw , as it was recommended by members here . May have been you actually.

It confirmed my arbour was out .0002” , just like the specs on the info provided with the saw .
I also used to check the alignment of the miter channel to the blade and to align the run out on my fence . It’s been a pretty handy gauge so far , but expensive
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Veritas are made in Canada Steve
I was just repeating what I had read. Looking a bit further I saw postings where the irons (blades) are made in Taiwan. That isn't an automatic deduction as it all boils down to onsite quality control and their testing standards. I have contacted Veritas for their response. Thanks for correcting me.
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"China"vs"Taiwan" Not the same; Worlds apart quality wise in my own experience.
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