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Here is an interesting video from Word workers guild of America

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I use them where they won't be seen in the final assembly, and mostly so I don't have to use clamps when gluing and assembling my projects. This lets me continue assembling in large sections, or do the complete assembly without the need to wait for the glue to dry before removing clamps so I can continue with the glue-up of the next stage if the assembly. I don't depend on them for full joint strength, letting the glue do the work of holding the project together. Because I hate their look in places where they will be seen. This sometimes requires using clamps, and when this happens I then have to wait for the glue to dry before I can continue. Still, they let me work faster, and this is my main reason for using them.

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But how many times will pocket holes get that much pressure exerted on them when the whole project is put together? But never use pocket holes myself, closest I ever came to them was using dowels. Usually just use glue blocks.

When I was a kid I was taught:
Use screws when you expect to take something apart later.
Use nails when you do not expect to ever take something apart.
Use hide glue when you may have to take something apart later
Use regular glue for joints and such.
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I prefer to add glue to pocket hole assemblies. I'm a suspenders and a belt kind of guy.

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I use pocket holes all the time but have never considered glue. After seeing this I may use a little, although I have never had a problem and I buy my screws 1,500 hundred at a time.
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please do,,,
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I have made a couple of things and used TBIII along with the pocket screws. Little bit good, whole lot better.
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I don't use glue with pocket hole screws which gives me the option of taking it apart later like Shop tables and such.
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I use the Kreg Pocket Hole Jig all the time. The pocket screw/hole system is pretty strong by itself but is not as strong as glue and pocket screws. Just like regular glue joints modern PVA glue is stronger than the wood itself and failures are usually next to the glue line and not at the glue line. So for me if it is a utility project I tend not to use glue. For cabinets I use glue and the pocket screw as someone else said "Belt and Suspenders". Pocket holes are great but you need to clamp the work when screwing it together. The angle and/or the torque of the screw usually makes the non-hole part move away and can sometimes stay that way not to mention it shifts out of alignment. I use the Kreg vice grip type pliers to hold the joint together while screwing the first screw. Usually that is all that is required to keep alignment. If you want to make something fast and strong pocket holes are the way to go. The holes are unsightly but they do have pieces of wood to plug the holes and a cutter to make your own plugs out of the species of wood you are using. There is a newer pocket hole system from castle that is not as steep of an angle. I want to find out if they work better than Kreg but you can get Kreg stuff every where.

Pocket Holes have their place and are easy and accurate if done right.
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One thing I found was the the square hole for the driver is the best type to use. Phillips head pocket screws just don't drive as well. Coarse threads for soft wood, fine for hardwoods.
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