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In my thread re moving the shop, yes there is a need for dust collecton, unfortunatly not a lot of $$$ to manage a system. So it comes down to this, I have a Shop Vac that I can hook up on most of my equipment to manage the large stuff, it's the fine particulate mater flooting around the room that I would like to manage. I am looking into something like the following:

AC620 Air Cleaner: 620CFM at Penn State Industries or


Amazon.com: JET 708620B AFS-1000B 550/702/1044 CFM 3-Speed Air Filtration System with Remote and Electrostatic Pre-Filter: Home Improvement

I know now would be the time to go all out, but we have a policy of no charges carried over so we do what we can as funds are available. Thats why no ceiling grid yet. We will be streching to do this much but we know we need to do something. I always appriciate suggestions from the forum and have made adjustments as suggestions have been made so thanks for your attention here.

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I open a basement window and stick a small box fan in it. I know it works because of the debris footprint outside the window covering the woodchips over the planting bed.

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I have an old furnance fan I mounted in a box made out of scrap with a cheap furnance filter on the outside and a good filter on the inside hooked it up to a hour timer switch, works really well I just vacuum off the outer filter every now and then
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Jerry, time to hit the yard sales for a used HEPA filter. I paid $15 for one that cleans the air just fine, a used Honeywell.

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I open a basement window and stick a small box fan in it. I know it works because of the debris footprint outside the window covering the woodchips over the planting bed.
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I have seen snapshots of your shop you work outside most of the time

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Jerry,

You've seen my shop and you know what a clean freak I am. Being new to woodworking, I underestimated what a big problem the dust would really be. I've purchased the Jet AFS-1000B and most recently the Jet 650cfm dust collector.
In the handful of projects that I've completed thus far, I've seen a pattern of major dust contributors. So far, there have been two things that seem to have rendered my dust control efforts useless... they're : CUTTING MDF and SANDING. I don't think I'll ever control the dust while cutting MDF, so I'll just have to cut the MDF outside. The sanding is a big part of every project and can be done outside when the weather is nice for now. But, to really help with the dust problem while sanding, I'm either going to buy, or build, a downdraft table.
I've really payed attention to when I'm getting the most dust accumulation on my counter tops. Sanding is my biggest dust problem. For me... looking back with hind sight, I think that I should have done the down draft table before the Air Filtration System. Of course, the down draft table without the proper filter on either the shop-vac or the dust collector would be pointless too. Without the 1 micron filter you're only recirculating the dust into the air.
Good luck with your decision Jerry.

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BJ I have been at his shop when the work is being done out under the trees!!

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Jerry, I have the Jet AFS1000B in my garage workshop and have found that it makes a world of difference. Before the AFS, all I had was the Delta 650cfm, with the .5 micron canister, dust collector. The DC does a great job, but doesn't get all the dangerous, smaller, airborne particles the AFS takes care of. IMHO it works as a system with one unit taking up where the other left off. I leave the AFS running for at least 2 hours after leaving the shop and when I go back into the shop the air is totally clean. Don't get me wrong. It's not a 100% solution, but the combination will get maybe 95% or more. I guess it all boils down to how much you think you and your families lungs are worth.

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Jerry,

You've seen my shop and you know what a clean freak I am. Being new to woodworking, I underestimated what a big problem the dust would really be. I've purchased the Jet AFS-1000B and most recently the Jet 650cfm dust collector.
In the handful of projects that I've completed thus far, I've seen a pattern of major dust contributors. So far, there have been two things that seem to have rendered my dust control efforts useless... they're : CUTTING MDF and SANDING. I don't think I'll ever control the dust while cutting MDF, so I'll just have to cut the MDF outside. The sanding is a big part of every project and can be done outside when the weather is nice for now. But, to really help with the dust problem while sanding, I'm either going to buy, or build, a downdraft table.
I've really payed attention to when I'm getting the most dust accumulation on my counter tops. Sanding is my biggest dust problem. For me... looking back with hind sight, I think that I should have done the down draft table before the Air Filtration System. Of course, the down draft table without the proper filter on either the shop-vac or the dust collector would be pointless too. Without the 1 micron filter you're only recirculating the dust into the air.
Good luck with your decision Jerry.

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I am leaning toward the jet 1000, it will cramp things for a month or so but I would rather have overkill in my dust management then not. My shop will be about 400-425 sqft so the Jet 1000 may work well in that space

I may have to think about a way to build a dust table and vent it outside. Just need a small blower from HF or Granger some dryer duct and a hole to stick it out of with a flapper out side. I wonder how much large hole pegboard one would use and have it effective. if you did it right, you could use the holes for a gig to hold the piece in place while sanding.

Maybe someone already has a dust table and would like to share it,--better yet I'll do a search!! Funny how some of my best ideas come while typing out loud

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