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I never asked what they use at home, but both my sons use cordless tools of various types, on their jobs. A huge percentage of their job sites have no power available, so for them it is a necessity.
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You can get around the need for extra drills by using quick change chucks and bits. The impacts are already quick change and you can get quick change chucks to put in a drill Chuck. I have one set of metric quick change bits to 6.5mm and a set of imperial to 1/4 inch in quick change so one drill sand one impact are usually good enough.
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2 18v DeWalt drills, with one 20v adapter. One 18v DeWalt impact drill. Other 18v toools include DeWalt jig saw and DeWalt riciprocating (saws all type), and a 6.5 inch circ saw. I love using those tools and not having to juggle cords. But if I have to work on concrete, give me a corded tool instead.

Much of woodworking is done in a shop, which centers on the table saw, drill press and for most of us, a router (freehand and table), where cords don't matter much. Sanders, flat or random orbit are easy to use with cords, and you can drape the cord on an overhead hook to keep them out of the way, then you also have the hose for dust collection to fuss with.

The last issue is the lifespan of batteries. A cordless tool has to really deliver to be worth having to replace them when the batteries die and require replacement. That's one thing I do like about the DeWalt system, they have the 20v adapter. But the lock to the tool is very stiff and clearly you need to buy an adapter for every tool. That's much better than complete oblescence when your batteries die. I just found 18v large XRP batteries for $105 a pair, far less than the $150 at HD. The battery lifetime issue is a deal breaker when it comes to many brands. If the manufacturer won't give you an upgrade battery plan, then screw them, stay away, let their brands die on the shelves.

I'd love to have a cordless nailer, but only if I used it constantly (never going to happen). Got to get your money's worth on high priced cordless tools.
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post #14 of 66 (permalink) Old 05-25-2019, 02:28 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys for your responses and personal stories, I really appreciate them.

I am merely using the drill for stuffs around the home, not professionally.

This is the model I am looking at. Also note that rotary hammer is a tad different from the similarly named hammer drill. This is a more specialised tool for concrete, but for me it is also interesting that it can be used as a powered chisel. This has an SDS+ chuck.



Not to long ago I had a home renovation, I tried using my 500W hammer drill to install some lights. I managed to install two and ate through a bunch of drill bits. My drill does regular concrete fine, but reinforced concrete like ceiling is a whole different animal altogether.

I ended up calling a handyman to install the rest of the lights. He came in with a rotary hammer. He drilled the each hole in seconds, one handed.

So at that time I thought to myself I want one of those for my next drill. This is before I bought my puny 12V NiMH Black & Decker that proved worthy for most other stuffs.

I also can see how cordless can be useful in this situation. I don't have to worry if I flip the right switch on the circuit breaker. Not to mention the LED light on the drill would be really handy where there is no light.

But the problem is of course this is not an everyday scenario. By the time I need to install another ceiling light, at least the battery would be long dead.

I think for some tools, cordless is a bigger deal than others. Say for a router or a sander, they create some much fine dust that it would be impossible to use them in a living room. But for a drill, or may be a jigsaw, clean up is not so hard with a vacuum cleaner on hard flooring. You guys are right to note that, when confined to a bench, all that cordless freedom is mostly nullified.

I think you guys cleared my head a little. I agree that having at least 2 drills is useful. I'll at least keep my current 12V as a screw driver like I originally planned to.
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I have an ancient Craftsman corded drill. Haven't used it in years. Ryobi 18V +1 had taken over. The Ryobi has tons of torque for driving screws. Corded drill is useless for that. Negative- spent lots on new batteries as the original batteries died. Found some blems at $99 for four batteries.

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When I installed car stereos for a living in the 80s and 90s, 12 and 14 volt Makita cordless drills were essential. Expensive, but also powerful, with a lot of "feel" so you didn't strip the customer's expensive dashboard etc. they were $300 or more each back then, made in Japan.

When the 14V finally died about 10 yrs ago, I made do without anything cordless, but one B+D hammer drill with a half inch metal chuck for years....and hated using it........but...no dough, kid, etc.

About 5 yrs ago, I bought a used set of Porter Cable cordless 12V and 18V drills, impact drivers, multiple batteries and chargers from a car club member (a contractor) for $200.

12V: 2 chargers, 4 batteries, 2 drills and 2 impact drivers
18V: 2 chargers, 4 batteries, 2 drills and 2 impact drivers

Have since added a recipro saw, 1/2" hammer drill and 1/2" reg drill, 7-14" circular saw and a flashlight along with 6 more batteries. Everything when it was on sale / clearance.
The 18V batteries were at Lowe's for $10/pr instead of $100. I bought both sets they had.

I really like having small versatile cordless tools, they are invaluable for working on cars, especially interiors. I also have about 30 air tools and a whole bunch of corded sanders, routers, saws etc. It is a luxury to have them all, but every job calls for the right tool.

I know a couple of friends who swear by the DeWalt 20V impact guns - one charge allows you to change 4 wheels at the race track twice, and it is half the weight of my $400 air impact gun. But it also cost $450 and doesn't have the power when things get real tight.

All of this is designed to give you some food for thought, perhaps a used decent set of cordless will get you into that game, worst case is having to buy some batteries. I know I despise lugging cords and heavy tools around.....almost as much as having to deal with ****ty old batteries that don't hold a charge long or cycle out early lol.
I dumped 3 batteries this week, so I'm down to 11 now; but I also like having dedicated tools loaded with the proper ends - one impact with a counter sink, one with a 1/4" drive socket, one drill preloaded with a commonly used drill bit. I do the same with my dozen air tools when I'm fabricating metal - so nice to have 4 die grinders all loaded ready to go. At $10 or $15 each at HF, it is not a luxury, but rather a solution to a problem most people don't realize they have lol.

Once you commit to a cordless system it makes more sense. I would never do without small and large cordless tools tho. The 12V drills and impact drivers are so tiny and useful......and way easier to handle, especially overhead or in tight ugly places. With cobalt drill bits, they perform way beyond expectations.

Good luck with your search and purchases.
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I am most interested in is an 18V Bosch rotary hammer.
I have both..
12 and 18V Lithium...
great stuff....
for a hammer drill consider the Bosch Bulldog.... the rule...
https://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-r...efault,pd.html
https://www.cpooutlets.com/reconditi...3=14%20-%2018V
pay attention to AH ratings... the more AH.. the heavier duty longer lasting they are...

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I have acquired a bunch of power tools since I got a tad more serious on woodworking
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