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I use the Birdsmouth bits In making planter barrels and a combination of the approaches suggested by @DaninVan and @Herb Stoops for the glue up. I cut and assemble the base for the barrel and a piece of heavy cardboard to match it in size and shape. The cardboard serves as a temporary top to the barrel for the glue up. I lay the staves out on 2 wide painters tape and then roll them around the base and the cardboard piece to complete the barrel. Once that is in place I use banding similar to what you use for the base and top being careful not to crush the cardboard at the top.

Adding a bit of wax to the edge of the cardboard keeps it from sticking to the barrel.

A critical choice in the process is whether or not you want the joints to overlap or not as that will impact the fit and sizeing. I use the overlapped version which is easily sanded away once the glUe up is finished. This also keeps the joints from slipping during the roll up phase.
I did use tape to hold the single slats together to make the pairs but didn't bother in the final glue up. I didn't get around to checking the angles of the pairs yet but the ratchet straps did pull all the joints tight except for the two, which weren't terrible, so I believe at the moment that that may be all I need if every thing else is right. More investigation and attempts will tell me if that's right.

Jon, when you say overlapped I'm assuming you mean like in this photo of someone elses project. And I think it's necessary to do it without a form and it makes it stronger.
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I bought some stretchable 3M tape from Lee Valley a few years ago and have used this for the glue up. You pull the tape tight as you lay it down so that it stretches and pulls all the joints tight when you roll it up. The advantage to masking tape is that the stretable stuff won't tear. Once it's together I used 2 strap clamps to add more pressure. I just checked the LV website but don't see it there now so not sure where to get it. The stuff I have it about 1/2" wide and lime green.
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the master of birdsmouth; he has at least 4 videos on the things.

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Sweet, just watched a couple of videos explaining these very well. One is
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I bought some stretchable 3M tape from Lee Valley a few years ago and have used this for the glue up. You pull the tape tight as you lay it down so that it stretches and pulls all the joints tight when you roll it up. The advantage to masking tape is that the stretable stuff won't tear. Once it's together I used 2 strap clamps to add more pressure. I just checked the LV website but don't see it there now so not sure where to get it. The stuff I have it about 1/2" wide and lime green.
Lee Valley sill sells the green tape, they call it "Binding Tape" 3M™ Binding Tape - Lee Valley Tools It's actually a standard 3M product, you can pick it up from various places on the Internet a lot cheaper.
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Lee Valley sill sells the green tape, they call it "Binding Tape" 3M™ Binding Tape - Lee Valley Tools It's actually a standard 3M product, you can pick it up from various places on the Internet a lot cheaper.
But does it leave a residue when you remove it? If you do a search of 3M 233+ you'll find something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I ordered a roll of the 18mm (.7") and will see how that works.
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That is the overlap I was referring to. Those edges can either be sanded off or left depending on the appearance one favors.

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That was the way I did it. I think the lap helps in putting it together. I hand planed the the outside overhang and then sanded a bit. My daughter took some decent pictures for me. The tree is an artificial one of the little woman's. It was in a thin plastic pot that was filled with a pour in foam. It's so top heavy that even a slight breeze would knock it over and the plastic pot is in pieces but still held together with the foam. So my project was just something to stick it in where we could weight it down and keep it upright. This was a quick effort. Definitely not fine woodworking.

Thanks Bob and Steve for those videos. I may have to try some more of them. This one was kind of fun to do. And Mark I did use some of that tape from Lee Valley to glue the singles into pairs.
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