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There are a lot of things that would be almost impossible to nail the conventional way and for that reason, a nail gun is a must. A pin nailer may go through your 1/4" shingle unless you turn the air down quite a bit. For most everyday jobs a cheap HF gun will do the job. I have a 16 gauge as well as the 23 gauge pin nailer from HF. Both to me are worth their weight in gold. I have used mine for at least 5 years and they owe me nothing. I also have a PC 16 gauge that I use when a heavier gauge is needed such as installing molding. Whatever brand you get check out the nails or pins at HF they cost much less there.
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Note: the Hitachi is now a Metabo product. Same gun just a name change. I have a Hitachi framing nailer that works just fine. Buy whatever feels right in your hand. Many of the nailers are made by the same companies under various names. My personal opinion on Craftsman (and I have a few is that they are good home shop tools but not designed for everyday use for a production environment, but that's just me. I don't depend on the small pins or nails as the only connector of projects. I use them more to hold things in place while the glue dries. With small wood (dollhouse) the 23 gauge is less likely to split the wood and the hole is almost invisible. The HF things I have bought don't seem to hold up as long as other brands so I buy them selectively. The newer brands they now sell seem to be an improved product. The choice of tools seems to be in the personal choice category. I try to stick with brands that stand behind their products, such as Whiteside router bits, Timberwolf bandsaw blades and etc. Although they cost a bit more they last for years.
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There are a lot of things that would be almost impossible to nail the conventional way and for that reason, a nail gun is a must.
A must? No. Nice to have? Yes. They have been making doll houses for who know how long, and didn't use a nail gun for most of them. I've got two nail guns. However, if you don't count the one my older son has had since it was new and I never got a chance to even try, I have one nail gun, that I have had for a year or two. I suppose one of these days I should unbox it, and see if it works.

When I was in 4th grade shop class, we made a porch style bird "house", without a nail gun. That got me in the habit of knowing I could do things without one. Actually, I'm not sure if they were even selling them then. That would have been around 1950.

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I have many nailers, but after reading a few articles on best (pinners) with least wood punch, the Hitachi is the best rated. So I have that for 23g, I use a Ridgid as a 18g brad, and a PC for 14g framing (man that thing can kick). I have a HF that I use only as a stapler, but it is a 18g brad/stapler combined. And for staples it is good, for brads it is HORRIBLE as it jams on every 20th or so brad.
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A must? No. Nice to have? Yes. They have been making doll houses for who know how long, and didn't use a nail gun for most of them. .
Agreed, other than our disabled fellows (like myself) it is a must, with 2 shattered wrists, I can no longer swing a 2 ounce peen hammer.
But for any normal person, no they are a luxury. I have a 2 story doll house I keep putting off. She is only 1 now, so I have time.

But dollhouses have been made as far back as ancient Egyptians. So a good 2,000 years not sure they had air compressors back then.
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A must? No. Nice to have? Yes. They have been making doll houses for who know how long, and didn't use a nail gun for most of them.
Hammering framing nails all day can cause issues with the elbow and wrist on that hand so a nailer can be a prevention against chronic stress on those body parts which in the long run makes them a very cheap investment. As for the smaller guns they allow you to hold a part with one hand and nail with the other which you can't do if you aren't able to start a nail first. In lots of cases hammering one nail loosens others that are already in. Once a nail pulls loose it never holds as well again and nailers don't tend to be as prone to do that.

Please also keep in mind that the OP didn't ask whether he should buy some nailers, he asked for recommendations. I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about using a hammer.
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I have PC nailers , but I have to say I enjoy using my Ryobi cordless nailers more lately. Have both the 18ga and the 23ga pinner. No worries about hoses or the noise of a compressor. Just my 2 cents
I agree. The cordless models are perfect for what you need a nailer for.
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Depends, if you have a good air compressor. Then the added cost of batteries may not be on the table. If money not a concern, and weight, then yeah a cordless may be the answer. Could depend as well on how long you plan on using it, air will last all day and into the next. The battery (a single one) will last a couple of hours. So make sure you consider cost of at least 1 extra battery. Perhaps rather than ratings on a nailer, look at what batteries you currently use, that will limit your choices real quick.
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I have a PC 18 ga 1 1/4" nailer, a Grizzly 18 ga nailer – 2 inches and a Grizzly 18 ga nailer stapler combo as well as a HF 23 ga pinner. I have a PC pancake compressor which is adequate for my needs. All of the nail guns have worked fine for me, but when you look at 23 ga pinners, check to see if they have a safety. The HF does not and I recall that some of the other lower-priced pinners I looked at did not either. I do not have a battery-powered nailer or pinner, but they may be a good option for you to consider. The battery would add some weight to the unit but you would avoid wrestling with the air hose.
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Thank you everyone. Your advice is very much appreciated. And yes hammers did come before nailers. Lol. I will let you know how I make out. Again thank you.
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