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This conversation has been getting me to think about a new saw. I have been thinking about the Sawstop Professional model with 3hp 1ph 230v, and then thinking about the Sawstop Industrial model with the 5hp 1ph 230v since it is much heavier and I am so sick of having an under power saw. 5hp is probably overkill. But then there are the economics.... $2879 vs $4049 (3hp) or $4499 (5hp). I have also thought about the Grizzly G0623X - 10" 5 HP 230V Sliding Table Saw at $3375. I plan on doing a lot of work with sheet goods. My biggest reason to buy a new saw is that I am struggling with my current saw, underpowered, and I am worried about my fingers. This gets me leaning heavily to the Sawstop. On the other hand, I struggle with ripping sheet material all the time. I think the solution may be getting a track saw and the Sawstop. Thoughts?
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D R Tom, Have you considered making a lift of some sort to move your miter saw vertically, up to the ceiling? Boat winches are cheap, Horror Frt.

TwoSkies, I totally enjoy using my hand tools, BUT at my age, I'm running out of time and my "to do" list isn't getting any shorter. So I use whatever tool best fits the project at hand. I once had a woman ask "do you use tools to make those?" I was tempted to ask if I looked like a beaver. I've also had people off the far left deep end accuse me of being the blame for causing unemployment because my shop used a CNC router. I also note that on one of the candidate debates, one of the contenders complained about industry using automation and robots, hence reducing the # of people they employed. I'll bet that same person owned a factory made automobile. I'll bet that if 200 years ago there were table saws available, the master furniture maker would have used them in place of the apprentice (slave) labor.
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This conversation has been getting me to think about a new saw. I have been thinking about the Sawstop Professional model with 3hp 1ph 230v, and then thinking about the Sawstop Industrial model with the 5hp 1ph 230v since it is much heavier and I am so sick of having an under power saw. 5hp is probably overkill. But then there are the economics.... $2879 vs $4049 (3hp) or $4499 (5hp). I have also thought about the Grizzly G0623X - 10" 5 HP 230V Sliding Table Saw at $3375. I plan on doing a lot of work with sheet goods. My biggest reason to buy a new saw is that I am struggling with my current saw, underpowered, and I am worried about my fingers. This gets me leaning heavily to the Sawstop. On the other hand, I struggle with ripping sheet material all the time. I think the solution may be getting a track saw and the Sawstop. Thoughts?
I have a track saw and love it . Was going to build a panel saw until I learned of tracksaws .
I don’t have great luck getting accurate cuts breaking down sheets by myself on my tablesaw , so the tracksaw comes in very handy .

If I could buy my tablesaw saw all over again I’d go with a 5hp SawStop , their industrial model .
I really like their dust collection hood over the blade , and bought their DC system but need to get it modified to fit mine .
My General cabinet saw is an impressive saw, but I like saw stops DC better. I don’t care for SawStops self destruct system if you touch the blade , but I guess it beats losing fingers .
Wish they would implement something like Bosch’s safety system instead
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I like my track saw for breaking sheet goods down much better than trying to do it on my table saw, but once broken down, the table saw wins my heart. Two accessories make my table saw great: See pix Wixie digital angle finder and Woodpecker's jig to align miter track, blade and fence. Amazing how your work improves when you use these for setup.
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True story. Iíve been using CS instead of TS since I sold my jobsite TS, and while itís possible to produce passable results with simple jigs, a good TS wouldíve saved me at least 1/2 the time. With that being said, I do believe that using the CS was a huge aid in terms of experience and creative thinking.
There have been times that I have had to resort to a cs because my table saw was miles away. I had to do some creative thinking but it was actually desperate dangerous thinking. The cs saw was not designed to do cutting on anything but large pieces of wood. To think that you can get by without a table saw is like saying that you can get by with a hack saw to do coping work.
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"...hack saw to do coping work."
Hack saw? Did you mean back saw or coping saw?
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"...hack saw to do coping work."
Hack saw? Did you mean back saw or coping saw?
fret saw???

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My loving husband (and our daughter) went in on a table saw for me some years back; it was a craftsman. It rattled so bad it scared me. It was gone within a month (maybe two). But it was sold. My next one will be of a more "solid" build, and a great deal of plans I have, would cut much better on the table saw.
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@OutoftheWoodwork On that band saw, do you need a 14 inch model or would something smaller, but not a toy, work for you? I have a 12 inch Rikon that I keep in the shop and use all the time. I keep a half inch Timberwolf blade in it for most things and have even managed to resaw with it. It is identical to the WEN saw pictured below. Bolts down, no plastic except for the knobs. It bolts down to a bench has a nice iron table and even has Carter-style roller guides. The WEN is about $100 less than the Rikon and I just don't see any difference inside or out. You can get blades and tires for either--they're interchangeable. Takes a 72 inch blade, which will wear out faster than the 93 and 105 inch blades on bigger saws. The stands are extra on both of them. I've ordered WEN stuff online and had it delivered locally for free (HD and WalMart). Both do come with a fence and small miter gauge. Picture sizes differm but machine actual size is the same.

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@DesertRatTom Looks like the Wen has a light? I would say for the money, if they're comparable in quality, and they're gonna have some long life to both, I would say the Wen would be good. I guess I was thinking in the dinosaur days, where they weighed almost as much as a dinosaur. Thus the reason I was looking on Marketplace and Craigslist in hopes of getting one like the drill press I just got in August. It's from the 80's and weighs as much as a dinosaur *giggle* Ken will attest to that, after moving it a few times when Amanda was over.

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