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I tried to do something like this in my specialty some years ago. It got stuck for a very long time and got out of hand. We finally reduced the outline to a grid, then added on the elements separately. My feeling is that this should be pretty straight forward and I don't think it should go beyond the basic information about router bits. Otherwise we're writing a book on woodworking, something that is NOT needed and will simply swamp the project.

I'm pretty much with Stick on brands, but I think we have to go way beyond four brands, and I think the profile sample is a must for newbies. I think a general quality discussion is very appropriate--what represents quality. Hardness, brazing, shank size, longivity depending on use. KISS will be read, compllicatingthehelloutofeverydetailjotandtiddle, won't.
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Nope...not a chance...LOL...

...don't you want to go down in the annals of RF history...?

If I have to do the "words" you will have to submit to countless interviews...
darn....

interviews it is...
I like the no typing aspect...
gonna hold ya to it...

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...don't you want to go down in the annals of RF history...?
what!?!?! and get into yet another circle argument er discussion...
no thanks...
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I tried to do something like this in my specialty some years ago. It got stuck for a very long time and got out of hand. We finally reduced the outline to a grid, then added on the elements separately. My feeling is that this should be pretty straight forward and I don't think it should go beyond the basic information about router bits. Otherwise we're writing a book on woodworking, something that is NOT needed and will simply swamp the project.

I'm pretty much with Stick on brands, but I think we have to go way beyond four brands, and I think the profile sample is a must for newbies. I think a general quality discussion is very appropriate--what represents quality. Hardness, brazing, shank size, longivity depending on use. KISS will be read, compllicatingthehelloutofeverydetailjotandtiddle won't.

Agreed...in my prior life I had the liberty of long narrative...not applicable here. Regardless how well intentioned, it will fail if it's too long or convoluted. We need to make all efforts to make it an easy read of a difficult topic. That is the challenge which is why I am reaching out to any member that may have ideas (good/bad/indifferent)...and why I want as much review as possible. I'd rather go through several iterations of review, hence, consensus model for final. (check your PM...we have started)

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Default C'mon RF'ers...

...by now you should be able to see how easy it is to participate...

Get on your thinkin' hats and submit ideas...

It's already fun...make it more so...jump in there with both feet...

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Writing ain't fun because it's mostly edit, rewrite, rewrite again, submit for review, rewrite again. Mix up versions of text, fiddle with making tables for easy comparison. Update the tables until your fingers are beaten into submission.

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Writing ain't fun because it's mostly edit, rewrite, rewrite again, submit for review, rewrite again. Mix up versions of text, fiddle with making tables for easy comparison. Update the tables until your fingers are beaten into submission.

Thanks for the concern, Tom...I'm trying to make the project fun for the team members...collaborative projects are always fun, if you allow them to be. Having said that, there is a bit of work to make it what it needs to be. The team, as it grows, will PM, maybe conference call, get to know each other better...you know the drill. Who knows, maybe others will run with other "HOW TO's" after they see our results. Maybe I'll just keep crankin' these babies out for other subjects. I am simply advocating that responses should be geared to advising posters HOW TO buy rather than WHAT to buy and this is my way of helping to do that.

Your submissions gave you the dubious distinction of participating in that fun as a team member, should you wish to participate as such. You don't have to if you don't want...just keep feeding me ideas (like you did above) and I'll deal with it behind the scenes...that's one of the things I'm good at. I'll make you the same offer I made Stick...feed me bullets, I'll discuss them with you and others and then I'll write them up for the guide...easy, peasy...by now you should have received a PM from me with my first shot at the "PURPOSE/SCOPE" sections. Let me know by PM if you have any comments, when you get a chance...no timeline...

To make this easier, how about enticing members to participate...talk it up with friends/other members...everybody's got good ideas given the right encouragement (something this group doesn't need much of)

Didn't you have fun writing up your "18"...? Don't you continue to feel good about the value it has to newcomers...?

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I recall my first introduction to those “Robertson screws”, repairing furniture. In those days we considered them the @)))*&*)’k, Bain of our existence. Given the advent of star drives etc, I can now appreciate their place. Having acquiesced to the new norms, I abhor slots and Phillips screws with a passion.

Sorry but the above doesn’t qualify me for comments on router bits. My perspective there is I buy the best for the task and abhor packages.
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I vote for Robertson screwdrivers, Philips are not as good as our Canadian Robertsons ! or if you insist, Torx is also very good ! LOL

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I vote for Robertson screwdrivers, Philips are not as good as our Canadian Robertsons ! or if you insist, Torx is also very good ! LOL
what about clutch drive???
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