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So I'm thinking the near future may hold a new piece of machinery for the shop. I've looked into mortisers and am curious who is happy with theirs and what model they have. In my shop it would get a fair bit of work as I have plenty of furniture projects in the works but again it's a hobby shop and not a business. Most reviews I've read seem clear that most are not familiar with how they are used and have unrealistic expectations. The biggest complaint I hear is the cutters are poor quality and dull. From what I've read and I expect is in the manuals is that the cutters need sharpening first much like chisels.
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I think all manufacturers are shipping product with only cursory sharpening these days. Surprised table saw blades don't arrive dull.

Here's info and video on sharpening these chisels: https://www.finewoodworking.com/2014...mortising-bits

Some sharpening gadgets for those chisels https://www.amazon.com/mortise-chise...isel+sharpener

I've looked at a number of these and of like the PowerMatic, but the following article makes me rethink the choice: Here's an interesting website on mortising machines with lots of info, and some editor ratings that look pretty informative. https://www.popularwoodworking.com/q...top-mortisers/

Hope this helps. interesting in that last article the comments about RPM differences, and also about cheap bits.

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I have the Powermatic...
does everything I want...
LeeValley Chisels and their sharpening cone have proven to been a good value and quality...
the table and clamps are 1st rate...
the Jet is a lighter weight version...

I had a Delta and absolutely hated it...
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PM701 and 719T...
the more HP sure is nice...
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I wanted to make mortises years ago and couldn't afford a mortising machine so I got the mortising attachment for my DP instead. I was using it recently and realized that the DP and attachment has a far greater range than the dedicated mortiser will do. Mortisers only have about a 6" travel I think where the DP could do something over two feet tall or thick. Plus you eliminate the footprint of another machine and the cost is around $120 https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...&condition=new

I agree with getting the diamond cones from LV for sharpening them. Even just spinning them by hand will sharpen the edges of the chisel to razor sharp. 2 or 3 seconds in a drill is probably enough.
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I bought a Delta years ago and it works fine BUT over the years I haven't used it enough to justify the price I paid for it. It all depends on how much you will be using it. In my case I could have bought something else that I would have used more. With the number of mortises I have made I could have just as well used my plunge router. I bought it because I had a customer who was big into doll furniture but that dried up pretty quickly. It was good for the small joinery.
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Morning Chuck,

I guess I wonder how well you can secure the wood using a drill press? I have an old Clausen drill press that doesn't have the geared table raiser and is a real pia to move up and down. It is adjustable speed though and works well for my needs. I'll have to check the HP rating but I think it's an old commercial unit I picked up from a friend some years ago. It's a free standing unit as well. Turns out the DP has a 3/4 HP motor. Pictures attached....
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Hi Steve that is a nice DP Clausing makes nice equipment. We had a Clausing metal lathe at a shop I used to work at it lasted forever. I wonder if you could rig up a scissor jack between the base and the table to make it easier to raise the table up and down?
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Hi Steve that is a nice DP Clausing makes nice equipment. We had a Clausing metal lathe at a shop I used to work at it lasted forever. I wonder if you could rig up a scissor jack between the base and the table to make it easier to raise the table up and down?
Hey Roxanne,

Yes I had looked at that a few times and about the only thing I came across was using a lift like that used on a boat trailer. I just haven't quite figured out how that would be attached securely. I installed a 12 volt lift on our 25" travel trailer that works quite well and that style could likely be adapted. I even have a few 12 volt 10 amp power supplies that are spares for the observatory. Thanks for reminding me.....
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