Table Saw Again... - Router Forums
 17Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Country: United States
First Name: John
Posts: 4,059
 
Default Table Saw Again...

My older (113 series) Craftsman Table Saw started to slow down and even bind up on 1" boards. Figured it was time to start looking for a replacement. I really do like the saw. Grizzly, Delta, Jet, and Ridgid were what I was looking at -- $1k give or take. Then I started fiddling with the fence (Craftsman 2424). Seems it isn't lining up straight all the time. When it is right -- it cuts with no problem. So.......do I just replace the fence and which one will fit. I hear a lot about the Incra system. From what I gather - I'd have to replace the fence on anything new I bought anyway. Worth a shot before getting a new saw?
DaninVan, Herb Stoops and artman60 like this.

HJ

Detroit Burbs

RoutervilleUSA on Etsy

I took the tests and retirement is the best job I'm suited for.

Now I know why old guys wear suspenders.
honesttjohn is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 01:29 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Stick486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Country: United States
First Name: Stick
Posts: 27,186
 
Default

Repower it..
as for the fence.. I'm partial to Vega..

https://woodsmithspirit.com/best-table-saw-fence/
https://sawingpros.com/best-table-saw-fence-reviews/
https://reviewinfinite.com/best-table-saw-fence/
roxanne562001 and Herb Stoops like this.

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

Stick....
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"SNORK Mountain Congressional Library and TaxidermyĒ
Stick486 is online now  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 01:54 PM
Registered User
 
RainMan 2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Country: Canada
First Name: Rick
Posts: 16,598
 
Default

I had a Biesemeyer fence on my Delta contractor saw and it made the saw
radios, Herb Stoops and artman60 like this.

I donít always insulate , but when I do .
Ok ,I never insulate
RainMan 2.0 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 03:01 PM
Registered User
 
Nickp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Nick
Posts: 3,985
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by honesttjohn View Post
My older (113 series) Craftsman Table Saw started to slow down and even bind up on 1" boards. Figured it was time to start looking for a replacement. I really do like the saw. Grizzly, Delta, Jet, and Ridgid were what I was looking at -- $1k give or take. Then I started fiddling with the fence (Craftsman 2424). Seems it isn't lining up straight all the time. When it is right -- it cuts with no problem. So.......do I just replace the fence and which one will fit. I hear a lot about the Incra system. From what I gather - I'd have to replace the fence on anything new I bought anyway. Worth a shot before getting a new saw?

If you can buy the fence and still be able to use it on a future replacement saw, it would be worth a shot. But you might want to consider that Stick's suggestion to repower might be necessary anyway. So if you like the body/bones and other parts are good (arbor, bearings, etc) go with the fence and motor...

Having said that, there are some really good saws out there if you just want to take your shoes off and jump with both feet...

My Darra James and Bosch 4100 are sporting their stock fences so can't help with a recommendation...
roxanne562001 likes this.

Nick

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
GIVE A MAN A FISH and you feed him for a day.
TEACH HIM HOW TO FISH and you feed him for his life time.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Nickp is online now  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 03:34 PM
Registered User
 
PhilBa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Country: United States
First Name: phil
Posts: 1,526
 
Default

I got fed up with my Craftsman TS a long time ago. It was a similar to yours, I believe. Ultimately, I wanted more power and went for a Griz 1023 3HP. very happy I did. The fence on it is quite good.

Looking at refurbishing is always a good idea. A couple of things to consider, though. Foremost is what motor does it have. I wouldn't put in a more powerful motor so that kind of limits you. Also, what kind of belt does it have. My CMan had just a single belt. Prone to slipping. There are some good aftermarket upgrades for that. A new fence makes a lot of sense. I considered getting an Incra because the one on my router table is awesome. However, it takes a LOT of extra space which I ultimately decided I didn't want to take up with a fence. Also, my CMan had a weird splitter while my new griz has a riving knife. I would get lots of binding with the CMan, none with the griz with the riving knife installed. I would definitely look to add one if you don't already have. A few other mundane things can improve your TS - clean and sharpen the blade, narrow kerf blade (takes less power), clean and wax the table top.

Unless you can't afford it, I would say get a more powerful saw. It really makes a difference. The one I got costs 1500 now (Griz 1023). Maybe a used 3HP would work.
Knot working likes this.

Measure twice, cut once and CROSS OUT THE WRONG MARKS.

Visit my shop website.
PhilBa is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 05:42 PM
Moderation Team
 
Cherryville Chuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Country: Canada
First Name: Charles
Posts: 15,664
 
Default

Sometimes the slowing down is a bad bearing which may not be that expensive to fix. Fences can make a world of difference. I have one of these on my backup saw from Mule/Accusquare and it's first rate and less than most others. Mule Cabinetmaker - Carpentry Tools for Carpenters that Need Precision & Reliability!

The extra hp like suggested is good and the big saws will come with a pretty good fence system. If you have the cash and the room you won't regret going big but remember that once you plop one of the 3 hp beasts down it's there for a long time. They don't move easily or well.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
Cherryville Chuck is online now  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Country: United States
First Name: John
Posts: 4,059
 
Default

It seems to have the power when the fence is straight. Just slows down when it's cutting on that slight angle. I'm thinking the Vega fence that Stick likes (supposed to fit this saw) and a chain link belt and maybe new pulleys. The fence can always be put on another saw.

HJ

Detroit Burbs

RoutervilleUSA on Etsy

I took the tests and retirement is the best job I'm suited for.

Now I know why old guys wear suspenders.
honesttjohn is online now  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 07:53 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Stick486's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Country: United States
First Name: Stick
Posts: 27,186
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by honesttjohn View Post
It seems to have the power when the fence is straight.
Just slows down when it's cutting on that slight angle.


I'm thinking the Vega fence that Stick likes (supposed to fit this saw)

and a chain link belt and maybe new pulleys.

The fence can always be put on another saw.
how much HP do you have now???
are your blades sharp.. and not - you guess they're sharp... or they should be sharp..

why the pulley???
and those chain link type belts only mask the symptoms - they don't fix the problem...
artman60 likes this.

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

Stick....
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"SNORK Mountain Congressional Library and TaxidermyĒ
Stick486 is online now  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 08:21 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Country: United States
First Name: John
Posts: 4,059
 
Default

It's the original motor. Been doing a good job since I've had it as far as power.

I'm using a Ridge Carbide blade. It is sharp.

Turned out to be the pulley the time I had problems. Replaced the arbor pulley with an ACE hardware one cause that's all I could get at the time. Seemed to work ok then.

HJ

Detroit Burbs

RoutervilleUSA on Etsy

I took the tests and retirement is the best job I'm suited for.

Now I know why old guys wear suspenders.
honesttjohn is online now  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-03-2020, 09:19 PM
Moderation Team
 
MT Stringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 5,682
 
Default

I had my dad's Craftsman TS and upgraded it to a Vega fence. The fence was much bigger (my fault for ordering the wrong one). Then I bought the Grizzly 1023 3hp. Love it!

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
MT Stringer is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome