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I thought I had posted this earlier but it's nowhere to be found. So I decided on hamburgers for dinner but soon found out we didn't have lettuce and tomato so off to the store. Next to the grocery store is a store called Rivertown, a second chance business and I just happen to have a bit of spare time so I drifted in and lo and behold there was this Stanley Bailey #6 plane that looked reasonably good.

The front counter had a sheet of 1/4" glass and the plane sat flat without any rocking so that seems to be a good sign. It listed at $50 so I figured it was a minor risk and took it home. Once home I took it into the shop but didn't expect to do manything with it today.

But that didn't exactly pan out....so I took it apart and did an initial cleanup getting the old sawdust and stuff out of it and checking the parts a bit better. I had no intention of doing much else but decided I needed to see how flat the blade was and started on the blade back on my extra coarse diamond stone. 30-40 minute later and a good sweat and the blade still wasn't flat. I was working the last inch or so and then I noticed that the blade wasn't square to the blade side either.

So now it looks like I'll need to setup my low speed grinder and the Veritas jig and square the blade of order a new blade from Hock or Veritas. The frog, lever cap, adjusting lever, sole, tote, knob, and chipbreaker all look good.

We'll see how this all turns out.
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Did you ever get to upgrade your hamburger to a cheeseburger???

lot's of promise in that plane...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Did you ever get to upgrade your hamburger to a cheeseburger???

lot's of promise in that plane...
Seriously?.....Yeah, all the way to cheeseburger deluxe w/BBQ beans.

That plane has hope but the blade is questionable. I need to build the table mount for the grinder and jigs. I had been waiting till I had started using the lathe but it looks like having the Veritas jigs and the grinder will necessitate me getting off my duff and get it one.
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Yeah, some barbarian held it against his grinder and it eventually wound up in some thrift store donation box. The store owner probably found it there for like $2. Glad some one to give it TLC got it - even for $50, it's a good deal.

Measure twice, cut once and CROSS OUT THE WRONG MARKS.

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Seriously?.....Yeah, all the way to cheeseburger deluxe w/BBQ beans.

That plane has hope but the blade is questionable. I need to build the table mount for the grinder and jigs. I had been waiting till I had started using the lathe but it looks like having the Veritas jigs and the grinder will necessitate me getting off my duff and get it one.
deluxe... now we're talking...

how much grinding does the iron need???
grinding may not be the way to recovery...

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Steve...your preference but from the last picture it doesn't look like it needs a grinder...I would just use your stones and jig to knock it down square and at the right angle at the same time.

Nice find...good luck with it...

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It's hard to tell from the picture but I'd guess that the blade is out of square by 1/8". I realize I can adjust the angle with the adjusting lever but I thought, could be wrong, that it was best to start with the balde square. Too extreme and maybe not so critical? Bringing these back to shop status is new to me and I just want to at least start off doing it properly. Maybe not the word I'm looking for but close to what is considered as a newer state. And I do have the grinder with the Wood Turners Wonders CBN wheels, one is Mega Square + 4-in-1 Pair CBN Wheels and the other 180 MS+600 4-1.

Then I was given the Wolverine sharpening jig for my lathe tools. I later bought the Veritas jigs for sharpening my chisels and plane blades including the grinder tool rest and grinding jig. That's what I thought would help square the blade as it has a slot for the grinding jig to rest in and alignment pins to set the blade squarely in the holder. Then I just need to adjust for how much to grind checking with the square from time to time. The CBN wheels reduce the heat and sparks a good deal I'm told. At least that's what this video references

Am I being too critical on cleaning this up? Going too far? Like I said, I'm a bit new to this refurbishing part and just want to get it back to good working order and being rather new to hand planes I figure the closer to new like working state maybe the easier to use properly. But........
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Steve...
use your MK-II and start out w/ coarse wet/dry...
you won't regret it...

often you read that members use a grinder to work on or sharpen their chisels and irons...
they often say that's to remove nicks/chip outs from the cutting edge...

ever wonder why those nicks got there to start w/???
the heat from grinding operation changed the temper of the iron or chisel...

BUT WAIT!!!!

to the last they all say that they never get the metal hot...
I beg to differ..
the cutting edge is extremely thin and it takes nothing to heat it up and change the temper...
it's that fine edge that does all of cutting/shaving, not the body of the iron or chisel..
TenGees and LeftFinger like this.

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
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Nice find Steve
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Hey Stick I wasn't going to sharpen the blade with the grinder but rather just square the blade. With the CBN wheels you hardly see any sparks and the metal is warm to the touch.

I had started just using the extra coarse DMT Diamond stone but after almost 45 minutes the back was still not flat in the corner. I then saw the blade wasn't square so then I thought I needed to square it to the side of the blade and then sharpen. I plan on using my various grit DMT plates for that. I have the extra coarse, coarse, fine, and extra fine. But again I thought it was necessary to square the blade....
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