He BROKETED It! - Page 3 - Router Forums
 95Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #21 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:08 AM
Moderation Team
 
difalkner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Country: United States
First Name: David
Posts: 3,118
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neville9999 View Post
Drill presses are all morse taper, clean it and tap it back up, its amazing how that taper hold it in.

A very nicely told story BTY, well presented with good suspense. N
Nope, not all. Mine is not.

He BROKETED It!-drill-press-chuck-jacobs.jpg

David
Herb Stoops likes this.

David

Curly Wood Shop on Etsy
David Falkner - Woodworking YouTube channel and Instagram
Our music at church - current videos Airline Baptist BC Facebook Live
Romans 3:23
difalkner is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:13 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
OutoftheWoodwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Barb
Posts: 2,518
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Herb Stoops View Post
Here is a video of what Charlie was saying about removing and reinstalling.
Herb
Yeah, we watched that, Herb. It didn't help, unfortunately. It told him what to do, but the problem was getting it to go back in. He didn't want to pound on it, for fear of messing up the retracting parts there at the bottom. Once he got it to go back in, he wasn't sure if he got it in all the way, seeings how he had such a hard time getting it to go back into it's slot in the first place. I'm gonna hope Ken got the post back in all the way, and hopefully give it a try today, when I make my center finders. I'll keep my distance as I use it, and if it pops back out, we'll know he didn't get it right, and it will sit till someone can help put it back together correctly, I guess.

A huge thank you to all of you who have answered and gave advice. I learned a couple things, my head went for a swim a couple times, and as always, you guys came through with all the experience you guys have.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!
kp91, difalkner and MEBCWD like this.

Barb


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full.
Henry A. Kissinger

If you choose to poke at a bee hive, be prepared to get stung.
OutoftheWoodwork is offline  
post #23 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:18 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
OutoftheWoodwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Barb
Posts: 2,518
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by difalkner View Post
Did the chuck come off the shaft? Here's what the Morse and Jacobs tapers look like. The Morse taper goes inside the quill and the Jacobs taper goes inside the chuck.

Attachment 386835

David
No, those two pieces came off as one. It was getting the whole shaft back into place.

Ken asked how I got the press to go down and stay like that, and I told him it just did it. It was kinda "sticky" when I pulled on the lever, and it's still "sticky". Ken didn't like that answer. It's not moving smoothly like it did before the thing popped apart on him.

Barb


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full.
Henry A. Kissinger

If you choose to poke at a bee hive, be prepared to get stung.
OutoftheWoodwork is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #24 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:19 AM
Moderation Team
 
difalkner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Country: United States
First Name: David
Posts: 3,118
 
Default

Once it gets unstuck does the spring still pull it all the way up?

David

David

Curly Wood Shop on Etsy
David Falkner - Woodworking YouTube channel and Instagram
Our music at church - current videos Airline Baptist BC Facebook Live
Romans 3:23
difalkner is offline  
post #25 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
OutoftheWoodwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Barb
Posts: 2,518
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by difalkner View Post
Once it gets unstuck does the spring still pull it all the way up?

David
Dunno... you're gonna make me go out in that 30-something degree workshop to find out, aren't you (and with a wet head wrapped up in a turbie to boot)

Hold on, I'll go check
MEBCWD likes this.

Barb


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full.
Henry A. Kissinger

If you choose to poke at a bee hive, be prepared to get stung.

Last edited by OutoftheWoodwork; 05-06-2020 at 08:25 AM.
OutoftheWoodwork is offline  
post #26 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 08:39 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
OutoftheWoodwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Barb
Posts: 2,518
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by difalkner View Post
Once it gets unstuck does the spring still pull it all the way up?

David

Well, yes and no. It's like it "catches". When I pull on the lever/wheel, whatever it's called, it "catches" here and there on it's way down. When I let it go, it stays there; I help it up, past the first "catch", then it will go a little bit (but very slowly) then it "catches" again, and it's like that till it gets up to the "resting" or "home" position.

Barb


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Mark Twain

There cannot be a crisis next week. My schedule is already full.
Henry A. Kissinger

If you choose to poke at a bee hive, be prepared to get stung.
OutoftheWoodwork is offline  
post #27 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 09:23 AM
Moderation Team
 
difalkner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Country: United States
First Name: David
Posts: 3,118
 
Default

30 something? Wow! I'm in shorts and T shirt and have the AC on in the shop.

There are several things that could be going on, so not in any particular order - 1) the spring is broken and only partially working, 2) the rack and pinion has years of dust and oil caked in making it too hard for the spring to retract the quill, 3) the spring isn't broken but has slipped and not providing sufficient strength to retract the quill, 4) there's some foreign object other than dust inhibiting the retraction of the quill, 5) assuming there's a splined shaft riding inside the quill and pulley there could be trash/dust/caked oil in there.

The quill should go up and down smoothly regardless of the spring tension, shouldn't catch anywhere in the travel.

None of this may help you get it fixed and I could be off base but these are the places I would begin checking.

David

David

Curly Wood Shop on Etsy
David Falkner - Woodworking YouTube channel and Instagram
Our music at church - current videos Airline Baptist BC Facebook Live
Romans 3:23
difalkner is offline  
post #28 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 11:13 AM
Forum Contributor
 
Herb Stoops's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Country: United States
First Name: Herb
Posts: 8,051
 
Default

The things you just described goes beyond the morse taper falling out. It has to do with the spring retraction of the quillshaft. There are some different types of those. Some are internal to the shaft, some are a coil spring on the outside of the drill press headstock.
Herb
difalkner and Nickp like this.
Herb Stoops is online now  
post #29 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 11:34 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 124
 
Default

And some of the return springs are downright dangerous!
I have a 1970's Craftsman industrial drill press and it seized up a few weeks ago. In taking it apart the grease/oil was so gummy (technical term!) it was like glue. Once I cleaned all the sawdust and old grease out and re-lubed it things work like new! Some presses have an adjustment to change the gear engagement between the quill and the handle. This may have fallen out of adjustment as mine catches on each tooth if not properly adjusted.
Good luck!
difalkner and Herb Stoops like this.
senebraskaee is offline  
post #30 of 47 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 02:14 PM
Registered User
 
CharleyL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: United States
First Name: Charley
Posts: 2,136
 
Default

There is also a quill lock knob on many drill presses to lock the quill at any desired height. If that is part way on it could be causing this too. Some drill presses don't have this, and have a double adjustment of the stop, where you can stop it at a desired down position, but also stop it from going up. If this is partly set on, the same result happens. Whichever you have, make certain that it's backed off and not causing the problem.

Charley
TenGees, Nickp and Herb Stoops like this.

Central North Carolina
CharleyL is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome