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I'm going to start working on my first router table build to go along with the purchase of my new router, and it seems pocket holes are the way to go for fastening the table together. The few woodworking projects I've done in the past I've fastened with lag screws and washers, but this probably isn't as fast or convenient as pocket holes are.

I'm going to pick up a Kreg pocket hole jig today, and I had a question about the screws. I see that Kreg makes special pocket hole screws that cost more than the generic woodworking screws at the store. Will I have any issues with using normal phillips head screws with the jig kit? What precisely should I be looking for in screws? (my router table will be mostly constructed out of 3/4" stock poplar).
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I always use the square drive screws. I think they are Canadian.
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Hi wathman,

Look up McFeelys. They should have the same screws only a bit cheaper I think. The screws themselves are a panhead screw. They are all square drive for the pocket hole jig.

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Alright, I'll see what I can find. I think I have a square head bit for my drill, just wanted to know if I'd be stuck buying proprietary screws all the time.
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I'm going to start working on my first router table build to go along with the purchase of my new router, and it seems pocket holes are the way to go for fastening the table together. The few woodworking projects I've done in the past I've fastened with lag screws and washers, but this probably isn't as fast or convenient as pocket holes are.

I'm going to pick up a Kreg pocket hole jig today, and I had a question about the screws. I see that Kreg makes special pocket hole screws that cost more than the generic woodworking screws at the store. Will I have any issues with using normal phillips head screws with the jig kit? What precisely should I be looking for in screws? (my router table will be mostly constructed out of 3/4" stock poplar).
Just built a wall unit using the Kregg pocket hole jig and I'm really pleased with the results. I noticed that my local Home Depot store has a brand of pocket screws available. Price was a little bit less than at Woodcraft but the selection of sizes and types wasn't great.
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HI wathman

Once you start using the sq.drive screws you will stop buying the Phil.drive screws,,you can get the driver(s) from the DeWalt service center , form 1 1/4" to 12" long ones..at the right price most are the snap in type but you can buy the standard screw hand type driver as well

Unlike the phil.type the sq.drive will not cam out it's neat to put a screw on the end of the 12" driver and it will not fall off,,unlike the phil.screws with or without the magnet tip driver..

You can buy the sq.drive screws off eBay for a song in the bulk,,then you should have a life time of screws...or you can buy them from the big box stores but they are very high in price,,,if you have a bolt and nut supply store in your town it's good place to get them for the right price,, but always buy them by the box 100/1000 per.box or bulk .ask them if they have the wing head type it will cut a counter sink hole at the same time the screw is put in place ,they should have the pan head (in both types, F & C ) as a stock item..


As you can see I'm sold of the sq.drive screws and I think you will be too once you have some on hand..



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I'm going to start working on my first router table build to go along with the purchase of my new router, and it seems pocket holes are the way to go for fastening the table together. The few woodworking projects I've done in the past I've fastened with lag screws and washers, but this probably isn't as fast or convenient as pocket holes are.

I'm going to pick up a Kreg pocket hole jig today, and I had a question about the screws. I see that Kreg makes special pocket hole screws that cost more than the generic woodworking screws at the store. Will I have any issues with using normal phillips head screws with the jig kit? What precisely should I be looking for in screws? (my router table will be mostly constructed out of 3/4" stock poplar).



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I think the only other type is the Torx and the Phillips-square that would even come close to equaling what the square type can and will do. As Bj suggested, buy in bulk. This will cut the cost way down.

There should be 1 or 2 Lowes and a couple of HD's up in KCK. There is a Woodcraft store in Olathe. These should also have the pocket screws you're after.

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iF YOU GET THE RIGHT JIG, IT USUALLY COMES WITH SOME SAMPLE SCREWS (SOFT WOOD AND HAED WOOD TYPES) AS WELL AS A GOOD LENGTH DRIVER FOR YOU DRILL.

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They are called Robertson screws. They actually have an interesting history. Yes they are Canadian and the fact that Henry Ford shunned them is why they are not popular in the US even though they are a superior drive innovation. You can read about it here.
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The screws aren't proprietary but you do have to buy the type of screws made for pocket holes. You need to pay attention to the fact that there is one type pocket hole screw for soft wood and another for hard. You also have to buy the correct length screw as determined by the thickness of material you are using. The reason a regular (deck or sheetrock) screw wont work is the head is wrong and the screw needs the correct length shank.

I agree with the Robertson screws from Mcfeeley's. They are great.

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