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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-06-2009, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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Default Lucky me... a new cyclone!

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I am getting a Clear Vue Cyclone... it is on its way to me and should be here any day. This is really exciting for me, to have this excellent machine to keep the shop clean. I have read loads of information at their website and forum but I wondered, does anyone have any interesting tips, photos, etc. on how they connected their cyclone to their router table, or any other machine?

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Hi Julie,
Congratulations on your purchase! I installed a cyclone about 2 years ago and it's made a tremendous difference in the cleanliness of my shop.

Your router table hook-up depends on your how your table is configured. If you have your router in an enclosed cabinet you can probably get by with a 4" or 5" duct to your cabinet and forgo the dust collection to your fence. On my original table (about 12' from my cyclone) I had one 5" duct hooked to my enclosed cabinet. Here is the fitting I used. The cabinet dimensions were approx. 18" x 18" x 16". This set-up was more than adequate to collect all of the dust from beneath the table. In fact, it would actually create drag when running a piece over the router plate until I added additional air inlet holes! Speaking of inlet holes, you'll also need sufficient inlet air to cool the router. I drilled ten 1 1/4" holes in the door of my table to cool the router and balance the airflow.

If you plan on pattern routing you'll probably want to add a wye and have two drops to the table in order to hook up to something like this guard.

You'll find that the cyclone systems are very powerful but must have the proper duct sizing and layout to ensure optimal operation. I'm not sure about the level of support you received from Clear Vue (system layout with duct sizing, etc.) but ductwork sizing and layout is critical. Good luck!
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I don't have a cyclone but I've been eyeing them and have heard nothing but good about Clear Vue both before and after the sale.

In the meantime I'm setting up a Jet DC1100 as a roll-around (bought it for less than freight, compared to new). It is "rated" 1100 CFM and has a 6" hose. I noticed Clear Vue has a rather interesting 6" to dual 4" compact wye. I'm considering one for my router table for above and below gathering. It's unusual but attractive so i've attached some pictures. They sell for $35 or 3/$100, so they are priced similar to a wye. Probably not as efficient but a heckuva lot more compact!

Joe.. thanks for a source for 6" hose to machine flanges. Just what I'm looking for!
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Jim just out of curiosity, have you run PVC for your main run then just use flex where you connect to an appliance? I have been thinking along those lines. Seems it would remain cleaner and give better service than the flex.

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hi Jerry

ive read and heard that galvinized pipe is better for the main trunk. i dont have a clue, but im sure i dont want galvinized pipe

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BigJimAK,
No problem. Those flanges are heavy duty and work very well. I love the look of that 6" to dual 4". I would love to see dust traveling through it.

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Rigid pipe (whether metal or plastic) is more efficient than flex because there is less drag.

There is a lot of good information at Oneida Air. I bought the 3hp Dust Gorilla from them along with all the ductwork. They provide consultation and a free shop plan when you buy your system from them. They also modified my plans after I added tools two years later at no charge.

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Joe,

You've probably seen this already but here's a good information site on DC's.

Bill's Cyclone Dust Collection Research - Home Page

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You've probably seen this already but here's a good information site on DC's.

Bill's Cyclone Dust Collection Research - Home Page
BigJimAK,
I have. But thanks for providing the link. The site looks like it has changed a lot since I visited. It is well worth every woodworker's time to study the information provided on this site.

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hi Jerry

ive read and heard that galvinized pipe is better for the main trunk. i dont have a clue, but im sure i dont want galvinized pipe
Hi Levon:

One advantage of using metal pipe is that one doesn't need to run the grounding conductors inside and out. Just make sure each joint makes a good electrical connection (e.g. a screw joining the two pieces at the joint.)

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Hi Levon:

One advantage of using metal pipe is that one doesn't need to run the grounding conductors inside and out. Just make sure each joint makes a good electrical connection (e.g. a screw joining the two pieces at the joint.)

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