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Hi there - It's a never-ending story: to make a simple jig I need a shop full of tools...

Anyway, I think a decent tap set would be in order, but I have no clue what to get. I think I know that I don't want one of those comprehensive sets with sizes I may well never use. I also don't think I will cut bolts any time soon, so I'd rather spend my money on a basic tap set (or tap/drill set) for the moment.

Are there any such sets with the most common 5-6 sizes (around 1/4-20, 5/16-18, and a couple smaller and larger sizes) that are decent and don't cost an arm and a leg?

I looked around at all the usual places but cant judge what's good and what's not.

Thanks so much in advance. Best - MM
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Mischa...

I've used the Sears craftsman taps and dies for 35 years. they can be bought in individual sizes or in small to large sets. Price point is fair. I've had no complaints with em...
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I started out many moons ago with a comprehensive albeit very cheap tap and die set which did the job, just about, but as I found which I was using more than once, I would go out and buy top quality replacements. The result of this approach is that there are still a few of the originals but all the common ones are quality ones. It's important to use a cutting compound when using taps or dies, here in Australia I use "Trefolex"

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HI xvimbi

That's a hard one,if it's a one now and then i would suggest one of the sets below...it's like a a good drill index,if you don't have the right size you can use it..but you want both Mertic and SAE in the set,,we now have both to deal with now days..
I have 6 sets, from the very small (0-80) to the very big ( 1 1/2 ) you can't have to many taps and dies..


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Hi there - It's a never-ending story: to make a simple jig I need a shop full of tools...

Anyway, I think a decent tap set would be in order, but I have no clue what to get. I think I know that I don't want one of those comprehensive sets with sizes I may well never use. I also don't think I will cut bolts any time soon, so I'd rather spend my money on a basic tap set (or tap/drill set) for the moment.

Are there any such sets with the most common 5-6 sizes (around 1/4-20, 5/16-18, and a couple smaller and larger sizes) that are decent and don't cost an arm and a leg?

I looked around at all the usual places but cant judge what's good and what's not.

Thanks so much in advance. Best - MM



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Make sure you get HSS taps and dies. Buy a good tap holder, either a straight bar or a t-handle. Get a set of 3 taps for each thread size, don't skimp. Get a matching die for each. they are great for cleaning damaged treads.
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Like many, I suppose, a T&D set is on my wish list. What guidelines do I use in matching a set of taps / dies to the kinds / hardness of steel thay can cut? For example, for skiis, if I were to make them out of drill rod and want to cut threads for standard nuts I can choose from many steels. Amongst them are O2, D2, A2, S7 and many more.

How do I select a die set that will hold up to such materials, or must they be machined in a lathe?

The last thing I need is to buy some hard stock and dies and have the rod chew up the die teeth like an old Saturday cartoon!

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I think that i would go to sears, and pick up a set for around $80.00. You will have a nice set that will last a long time. Then if you ever need an extra size, about $6. , $7 will give you a few extra ,or a special size. You may never need any thing else for that. You can go to Radio Shack and pick up every small size, if you need it. Any auto parts, or hardware store will have kits or individual sizes

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i think a tap and die set is something used on a limited basis. if you do use it pretty often i would consider spending more on it. mine is a more inexpensive set. i am cheap and i dont use them that often.

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I'v had a set of T&D from sears for 20yrs now, used them quite a bit. Never had any issues with them. Then again, I did get their best set at the time. Just make sure to use thread cutting oil and clean them while making or cleaning threads.

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Hi Jim

Real GOOD tap and die sets are not cheap..a good set will cost about 400.oo to 500.oo if not more,,,all tap and die sets are made with HSS the norm..like any steel cutting tool
You will not use any thing bigger than 1/2" the norm in the wood shop , most buy the small set and it will sever you well for a long time...

You can jump on the SNAP-ON-TRUCK and pay over 100.oo for a small set or the same thing at CRAFTSMAN (Sears) I have a SNAP-ON set and a set from ACE hardware and they are the same one in a red box and one in a green but I will say the one from ACE is better,I like many use the best and I always pull out the snap-on SET because in mind I think it's better but the ACE set is just as good but it's newer because I always pull of the red box...


they both have a OC dept.checking the items but if you look at them real hard they are all the same..HSS ...I would guess you will wipe out one or two in the next 10 years but that's true for drill bits also (steel cutting tool )no one that I know about backs them up..(free replacement ) they just give up from time to time,,the norm is user error...just like a drill bit...

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Like many, I suppose, a T&D set is on my wish list. What guidelines do I use in matching a set of taps / dies to the kinds / hardness of steel thay can cut? For example, for skiis, if I were to make them out of drill rod and want to cut threads for standard nuts I can choose from many steels. Amongst them are O2, D2, A2, S7 and many more.

How do I select a die set that will hold up to such materials, or must they be machined in a lathe?

The last thing I need is to buy some hard stock and dies and have the rod chew up the die teeth like an old Saturday cartoon!



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