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I am making a blanket chest for my DIL for Christmas. The design calls for flat panels, but I wanted to try out my new raised panel bit set, so I milled them to size as raised panels.

Question: the design says to finish the panels with stain before putting them in the frame so you don't get unstained streaks from expansion, etc., and then cover them with wax paper as you mount them in the frame to protect them when you stain the rest of the chest.

That sounds pretty complicated, and I doubt it will work with raised panels. How do you guys finish your raised panel doors? How do you keep from streaking the panel with stain once it's mounted in the frame?

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It depends on how steady you are. As I get older I tend to finish parts then assemble. I also will use a sanding sealer then after assembly do a final coat.
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Hi Vaughn

Many stain the panels b/4 assemble but most of the time they are stain the same as the frames..

If I was going to make it diff. I would stain the panels 1st.then set them to one side and then stain the frame b/4 glue up, once it's dry ,glue up the parts and then put the clear coat on all the parts after dry up..you will want to do a dry fit b/4 anything, you will not get a 2nd. chance..for any sanding you may need to do..

You can use some white vingar and some bottle water ( 50/50 mix in a spray bottle) to wipe up the glue if you have some come out of the joints..
but do it right away do let have a chance to seal the wood..

I would not use wax paper, it's not the wax paper it's the masking tape that will give you the error..almost all tape will leave something behind that will seal the wood..
that wil give you that funny look in the corners..

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I am making a blanket chest for my DIL for Christmas. The design calls for flat panels, but I wanted to try out my new raised panel bit set, so I milled them to size as raised panels.

Question: the design says to finish the panels with stain before putting them in the frame so you don't get unstained streaks from expansion, etc., and then cover them with wax paper as you mount them in the frame to protect them when you stain the rest of the chest.

That sounds pretty complicated, and I doubt it will work with raised panels. How do you guys finish your raised panel doors? How do you keep from streaking the panel with stain once it's mounted in the frame?



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You can use some white vinegar and some bottle water ( 50/50 mix in a spray bottle) to wipe up the glue if you have some come out of the joints..
but do it right away do let have a chance to seal the wood..

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That's one I'd not come across before. Is that a PVA solvent? Most of our vinegar here is either grape or apple based rather than brewed. I wonder if it would make a difference?

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* I would not use wax paper, it's not the wax paper it's the masking tape that will give you the error..almost all tape will leave something behind that will seal the wood..
that wil give you that funny look in the corners..
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Hi Peter

" PVA solvent?" Not to sure, but you get white clear vinegar in the food store..I should say in the states..in a small plastic bottle or a gal.bottle..


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Hi Jim

Tape is tape...it all as glue on it ,the blue stuff works great over painted items BUT..glue is glue..I have found out the blue stuff does not seal real well on the edges of the tape..not to bad for spray jobs BUT..wipe on stuff it will let it bleed ...under the tape..

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* I would not use wax paper, it's not the wax paper it's the masking tape that will give you the error..almost all tape will leave something behind that will seal the wood..
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Finish AND clear coat your panels, not your stiles and rails. When they are completely dry, put them in the frames and put green tape on the finished panel edges where they meet the stiles and rails. Glue up. I find I always have to sand the frames, as careful as I am about fitting them precisely, I always need to sand them and often leave them slightly oversized so that I can trim them to fit after the glue up. Then finish your staining, leaving the tape on the panels.

Years ago I made some panel doors and did not finish the panels first. The panels did shrink and the line between the panel and the frame is NOT a pretty sight. Live and learn!

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Tape is tape...it all as glue on it ,the blue stuff works great over painted items BUT..glue is glue..I have found out the blue stuff does not seal real well on the edges of the tape..not to bad for spray jobs BUT..wipe on stuff it will let it bleed ...under the tape..

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