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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-22-2009, 03:33 PM Thread Starter
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While I realize this is a router forum, most if not all of you are well rounded wood workers and have a signifcant knowledge of the tools involved, which leads me to my problem.

Up until now I have been using a borrowed Craftsman contractor style table saw, circa 1978 based on the model and serial number. While it does great at ripping large sheet goods, precision is not its strong suit, in fact precision and it simply don't belong in the same sentence.

So what I would like from some of you are your opinions on different hybrid table saws that are under $1000, have a self squaring fence because the fence on the craftsman is worthless, and are a hybrid design because it must sit flat against the wall in order for me to still be able to get my truck in the garage on the off chance that I actually get it clean enough to do so. Finally they must be able to run off of 110v power, as I don't have a 220v outlet in the garage yet....

Right now the two I have spent the most time looking at are the JET and the Delta 10" models. I was able to see the delta in person down at woodcraft where I find myself spending a large amount of my lunch hours these days and I like the way the Delta feels. Are there any other brands I should be looking at, or any specific places I should be searching. My idea is to keep it under $1000 with shipping/tax etc all total.

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I like table saws (and machines in general) with cast iron tables. I have a 10" startrite table saw. I do wish it had an extra 3/4" of cut at times. It will cut 3" with the gaurd removed.
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Dan.. there are alot of good saws out there for the money you want to put out. A while back I picked up a Craftsman hybrid and I have to say, I have few issues of note. Plenty of power for my needs (serious more or less, hobbyist) The fence holds well, and is easily adjustable. Noise if fair to middlin, Fit and Finish are just fine for the money. I'd give dust collection at the 4" port a solid B, access to the belt and motor is easy enough. The cast iron wings were easy to mount and have stayed flush for well over 5 yrs now. Depth and angle adjustments are easily made, and hold well. My one complaint about the saw and its a biggie is that there is no mechanical trunion adjusment to true up the blade to the miter slots. You have to loosen up the whole chabang, fart around til ya get it, then tighten it back down, hoping that you nailed it. But once ya get it, she stays put for a very long time.
The two saws you mention are a fine reputation no doubt!!! Can't comment on them, since I dont' own on.
Sears is changing over their line and closing out some of the hybrid models including the one I bought. I wouldn't be surprised you could find one for under 800 bucks... Good luck with whichever saw you end up with...

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A big thing to pay attention to is table flat particularly around and across the throat. Rising up or down on either side can effect a blades vertical alignment.

Shortly after Delta was bought out, (4 or more yrs ago) there were rising complaints that their tables weren't up to par. Told to me by trusted WoodWorkersWarehouse store manager.

I have a Delta 10" cabinet saw, bought before the buyout but checked it anyway. It's low left of the blade but less than a sheet of writing paper, (a technical measuring tool).

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Hi Daniel
The saws you metioned are good saws. You could also look at the
Powermatic & Grizzly also. I have two Delta's the cabinet
& the contractor saws. You can get the Biesemeyer fence as an option when you buy the Delta's. It's a very good fence system & is jig friendly. You need a good acurate fence for precise cuts. The thing about Crarftsman is they change manuacturers about every 5 or 6 years & that's why there are so many parts for one style of saw such as plates. Just something to think about.

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I have Grizzly's Hybrid saw, an excellent saw. Cuts everything I need it to. It's rewired per their instructions to 220v, this alone made a great saw even better. If I ever have to replace it, it will be with a Grizzly cabinet saw.

I don't and won't recommend any of the sears table saws. The miter slots aren't exactly "true". If you wish to use a different miter gauge, you'll have to go back thru sears. I do have an older "bench top" ts of their in it's own stand, I only use it as a work table or a "storage" top.

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I've had a Delta 10 inch tablesaw for 12 years, was getting to the point I was not happy with it and on a whim replaced the fence with the Bessmeyer with the idea if that did not improve things with the saw I would have a good fence for a new tablesaw, made a big difference, thought I had a new saw, went ahead and spent some more bucks on a good blade, very happy with it, like they say "I'd rather be lucky than smart any day!"

I got lost in thought. it was unfamiliar territory.
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I got a new Delta TS this last summer and its table is dead-nuts flat to the accuracy of my precision straightedge. As for a fence, I can't say enough good about the Biesemeyer that came with it. I spent about an hour very carefully aligning everything (would be 10 minutes for some folks but I was having fun with my new saw) and since that time haven't wasted my time measuring my wood for rip cuts (or for cross-cuts when using the fence with a stop block) as its that accurate.

No matter which hybrid you decide to buy, if you can spring an extra $100 for a Forrest WoodWorker II blade for it you won't be sorry. I added a think-kerf WWII to my last saw and it not only made my cuts ready-to-join, but it was as if my saw just got a tremendous HP upgrade.

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I've had the Craftsman Hybrid for years now, and it's been a great saw. The stock miter gage was too gimmicky, but the Bessimeyer fence is awesome. The outfeed table is a little flimsy to be supported by one support, but in general I"ve been very happy with it.

It looks almost exactly like the delta and steel city hybrids, but I don't know if they share suppliers.

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Home Depot is closing out the Ridgid Hybrid w/granite top foR $499
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