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Ok here we go.
I am getting ready to build cherry kitchen cabinets and need help with the type of plywood to use for the sides.
Can I use birch and stain it to a cherry finish?
Should I use red oak and stain it to match the cherry?
What types of stains and finishes should I use?

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Hi Larry,

If it were me, I would use cherry ply and not stain any of it. Just my preference and yours may vary.
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The last thing I would do is use oak. It doesn't stain to look like cherry at all.
You would have better looking grain if you used birch.

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I would use cherry to match the face frame? or the doors & drawer fronts. It takes a talented finisher to take different species of wood & make them look the same. You don't want to ruin a big project like a kitchen. If you have any glass doors you can stain the inside of these for show. Also stain any outside ends that show.
I would just use a clear finish on the inside of cabs that have solid doors where you cannot see the inside with doors closed to lighten up the inside(same process but skip stain step). If these fit in between walls on each side & no side panels will show then you can use the other materials you mentioned & just apply a clear finish.
Cherry is a bloch prone wood. I sand to 220 grit apply a pre-stain let dry on its own without wiping off ( I don't follow instructions). Apply stain (may take more than one coat to achieve color) do not sand between coats of stain. After stain use a sanding sealer. You can use Seal Coat by Minwax. Lightly sand with 220. fininsh with a few coats of Polyurathane for durability sand lightly with 220 between coats. I prefer oil base products. But you can also use waterbase product. Do stain samples complete to finish & take notes on each sample. Better than ruining expensive material.

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I would use cherry to match the face frame? or the doors & drawer fronts. It takes a talented finisher to take different species of wood & make them look the same. You don't want to ruin a big project like a kitchen. If you have any glass doors you can stain the inside of these for show. Also stain any outside ends that show.
I would just use a clear finish on the inside of cabs that have solid doors where you cannot see the inside with doors closed to lighten up the inside(same process but skip stain step). If these fit in between walls on each side & no side panels will show then you can use the other materials you mentioned & just apply a clear finish.
Cherry is a bloch prone wood. I sand to 220 grit apply a pre-stain let dry on its own without wiping off ( I don't follow instructions). Apply stain (may take more than one coat to achieve color) do not sand between coats of stain. After stain use a sanding sealer. You can use Seal Coat by Minwax. Lightly sand with 220. fininsh with a few coats of Polyurathane for durability sand lightly with 220 between coats. I prefer oil base products. But you can also use waterbase product. Do stain samples complete to finish & take notes on each sample. Better than ruining expensive material.
that sounds like the best to do..

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If you are staining you could use alder as a cherry substitute. It's known as the poorman's cherry or canadian cherry. It should cost a little less than real cherry. Some cabinet shops build with alder & stain it to pass off as cherry to unknowing customers. When stained it looks very close. I build with cherry if that is what customer wants. If cost is a factor & they want the cherry look I will mention the alder alternative.

I prefer to use A-1 grade 3/4" ply for the cabs over shop grade cherry. The shop cherry feels like it weights about twice as much because of the amount of mdf used for the core. It's ok stuff but moving full sheets around or lifting completed cabs your back will notice after awhile. I think the little added cost is worth it for the lightness & good quality of the A-1 over shop cherry. Take a visit to your hardwoods supplier & look at both sheets to compare for yourself.

Remember when staining, that cherry will naturally darken over time. So if you use a dark stain it will be very dark in a few years. Some people like it some don't. I think it looks great with a clear coat or stained, but that's just my opinion.

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