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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 01-22-2010, 05:47 AM Thread Starter
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I already wrote this at the end of another post in the show and tell section but thought it might get more thought here.

Seems mostly I'm getting requests to duplicate modern designer furniture from picturtes people have in magazines
Some things look simple, others not so.
Probably I'll make this coffee table/seat next.



Apparently it's selling for 700 euros !!!! in some designer shop down town.
I think I can make the triangular box from MDF very simply for about 30 euros and then it's just a matter of shredding some magazines and gluing them on.

What is the general concensus when it comes to making a 1 off copy of something ? Ethicaly speaking that is ? Personaly I don't mind doing it as I don't see that it's any loss to the original designer as obviously these people wouldn't ever consider buying the original product, and I have no intention of making more than 1.

What do you lot think ?
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What I think isn't important, what you think is what matters, your the one going to make it. I suspect that if you are asking the question you already know the answer for you.

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I think a general attitude is if you make a copy for yourself, it is mostly accepted. If you are making a copy to earn money on, that is usually frowned upon.

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What I think isn't important, what you think is what matters, your the one going to make it. I suspect that if you are asking the question you already know the answer for you.
What you think is important. That's why I asked. I want to know other peoples position on this personaly. What you think may not change what I think though.

Just to clear up 2 things.
This table i will make pretty much the same as the picture for a friend, no charge apart from materials and maybe some beer.
Anything else I make, would be similar to what ever picture I have of the original but never an exact copy.
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Apparently it's selling for 700 euros !!!! in some designer shop down town.
Just a thought, but have you tried contacting the designer and explain/ask for permission?

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Are you copying elements of the design, or are you reproducing an exact copy? I've taken a lot of ideas from things I have seen in catalogs, but have adjusted them to fit my taste or needs, or to blend with furniture I already have.

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Hmm.... Make it so the top opens up like a piano bench and can use the inside for storage and then it becomes a original not a copy.

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Definitely will not be an exact copy as I don't know the dimensions and it probably won't have such a large chamfer, but it will be a triangular box covered in shredded magazines. Essentially it is going to look the same though.
I tried finding a contact for the designer today but with no luck, not even on his website. It would have been interesting to know what he thinks.
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I'm with KP91,

In addition it's extremely difficult to come up with an original concept, pretty much everything under the sun has been done already somewhere especially ugly and or useless things. If you care to narrow the parameter everyone steals/borrows.

Corporations duplicate 95+% of an item then change color, and or footprint or materials, something to avoid patent infringements.

However as previously mentioned if you're cloning an item for personal use, for =0= monetary gain I see nothing wrong with it.

If one takes a design "concept" and modifies it enough to give it individuality, like making it better it's good to go to the market.

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It would be a boring world if people worried about copying things other people had designed. There is all room for improvement on an idea or design. Its like trying to make a better mouse trap. People have tried for , but have they.
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