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I'm in the market for a laser level. I'm thinking of getting a self-leveling rotary unit. I will be framing out a building that I own and would like to quickly, easily and repeatably find both horizontal and vertical level.

I'd like to spend under $500 but I don't seem to be finding a lot of reviews on the web that are from actual users not the mfgr. Does anyone have actual good and bad experience with this type of unit? Does anyone have a site that might rate them or specialize in knowledge of them? Any help would be appreciated.

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I bought an early Pacific Laser PLS2 several years ago for about $300.

I think I earned the money back on the first two jobs!

Here is the replacement:

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Laser-..._ob_hi_title_0

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Hi Phil

I do have the one below it's not real high tech but it sure works well..

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I'm in the market for a laser level. I'm thinking of getting a self-leveling rotary unit. I will be framing out a building that I own and would like to quickly, easily and repeatably find both horizontal and vertical level.

I'd like to spend under $500 but I don't seem to be finding a lot of reviews on the web that are from actual users not the mfgr. Does anyone have actual good and bad experience with this type of unit? Does anyone have a site that might rate them or specialize in knowledge of them? Any help would be appreciated.

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Fit an inexpensive one to a tripod. There are some cheap deals to be had.
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I would caution on trying to be cheap with the laser. This is where you get what you paid for. When framing out a building you want a high accuracy +/- rating (smaller error measurement). I've seen many buildings framed with a low cost laser & were not plumb. The problem will compound & haunt you as you move through each faze of the project. The low cost lasers are fine for projects like hanging pictures & the such. I have neighbors on each side of me & one is a framer & the other one is a general contractor & they have told me of stories they have run into from use of cheap lasers.

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Mine actually came with a tripod. It was around UKP 15 from Lidl so I imagine similar ones are available through the likes of HF. It isn't self levelling. For that you traditionally needed pentaprisms and copper berylium tapes internally, which are relatively expensive. Mine has a 3 screw base for levelling.

I doubt that it would stand up to regular site work, but for occasional domestic use it is fine.

Even the professional ones need collimating regularly, to ensure they are still true. Bouncing around in the back of a vehicle can soon shake them out.

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I'm in the market for a laser level. I'm thinking of getting a self-leveling rotary unit. I will be framing out a building that I own and would like to quickly, easily and repeatably find both horizontal and vertical level.

I'd like to spend under $500 but I don't seem to be finding a lot of reviews on the web that are from actual users not the mfgr. Does anyone have actual good and bad experience with this type of unit? Does anyone have a site that might rate them or specialize in knowledge of them? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Hi Phil:

I couldn't qualify the purchase of a self leveling laser so I learned how to use a water level.

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Substitute a green Laser and it will mark the walls, or studding for you.
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All,

Thanks for the input. I agree with the thought that this is one area that you can't skimp on. I too have seen some jobs where the carpenter fell in love with his laser level and never bothered to double check with a regular level. I can understand why this might happen and I've had a job where level just looks a bit off.


JD,

I looked at your link, thanks. I think the PLS360 might work better for what I want. I will look closer at it.

Is your laser self-leveling?


Bob,

Thanks for the link, but I think I really need a self-leveler.


Peter,

I'm all about eliminating variables from my work. I constantly look for ways to simplify and not introduce errors like having to level my laser. In your opinion, is it worth it to purchase the more expensive self-leveling unit, (have to tune it) and get a superior end-product? I was given a cheapy straight line laser and I spent more time trying to keep it in level. I ended up chucking it and went back to a regular level to finish the job.

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Hi Phil

Sorry I didn't spot this earlier. I'd guess go for the self leveling one if you are earning from it. The time saving all adds up.

To be honest, I've not used one. Although I originally trained as a surveyor and sold survey equipment for many years, it's a long while ago now and the industry is nothing like it used to be, when quality was down to how well the optics were polished. These days the optics are polished on automated equipment to a first class standard and for a fraction of the cost. Electronics have superseded optics.
Electronic distance measuring was in its infancy when I was involved, having developed from military range finding and laser alignment was both expensive and fascinating. It has all moved on and is now better, more reliable and a lot cheaper than it was 30yrs ago. The stuff probably isn't as robust and is made to a price, whereas in my day optical instrumentation was seriously engineered and would stand being dragged through the jungle for 20yrs. These days no-one needs these things to last more than 3 or 4 years because something technically superior will have come out.

The concept must make equipping technical education establishments problematical.
30 yrs ago a department could teach with a set of equipment they'd had for 30yrs and didn't need a huge budget other for maintenance. These days the equipment will be conceptually obsolete in 5 or 6 years and if they are to train students to be able to use real world equipment, they'll need to be constantly buying new equipment.

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