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I've called twice in the last couple of weeks (the second time just to make sure I heard correctly) trying to buy the set but was told they were "out of stock and wouldn't be in for at least several more months".

Any idea what's going on behind the scene here? "Several months" seems like one heckuva long time to be out of stock on one of their key sets.

I've considered trying to order some of them piecemeal, but shudder at the price (and lack of storage) and don't know if they have those in inventory either. I really appreciate their honesty, as a lesser company would just take the order and make you wait but does anyone know what's going on?

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Hi Jim,
I use their bits & they are good quality sets, a couple of months is a long time. His bits used to be CMT bits. Since he has been making bits under his own brand they have been good quality, but don't know who is manufacturing them for him. Maybe they are on the slow boat.

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Hi Jim

You can always go in the back door so to speak,the price sometimes is lower at Amazon with free shipping deals and discount cards from Amazon.
Not to sure about shipping to you but you are in states so to speak.

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I've called twice in the last couple of weeks (the second time just to make sure I heard correctly) trying to buy the set but was told they were "out of stock and wouldn't be in for at least several more months".

Any idea what's going on behind the scene here? "Several months" seems like one heckuva long time to be out of stock on one of their key sets.

I've considered trying to order some of them piecemeal, but shudder at the price (and lack of storage) and don't know if they have those in inventory either. I really appreciate their honesty, as a lesser company would just take the order and make you wait but does anyone know what's going on?



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I use their bits & they are good quality sets, a couple of months is a long time. His bits used to be CMT bits. Since he has been making bits under his own brand they have been good quality, but don't know who is manufacturing them for him. Maybe they are on the slow boat.
Thanks James... This is consistent with my research a month or so ago when I was shopping for a Katie Jig and was comparing the one for sale at KatieJig.com with the "new improved" model at Sommerfeld's.

To get my information, I called each supplier and asked them for what it is that differentiates their product from their competitor.

My call to Sommerfeld's politely talked about the anodized finish, additional "fingers" included for the base price, and a lower base price.

My call to Machining Center Inc. (KatieJig.com) politely talked about "one competitor's jig being made in the USA, with the other made in the far east".

I ended up going with the KatieJig.com model (hey, a little bit to encourage domestic employment). I *did* find it humorous that their bits were made by CMT (Italian made) with their custom bearings added. I have nothing negative to say about CMT bits; they're great premium-quality bits but I'm surprised that a company that sees its differentiator from its competitor being its domestic manufacture not using Whiteside or other domestic made premium-quality bits. Somebody wasn't thinking this clear through.

Lest this post come across wrong, I'll go on to say that I encourage people from every country to be willing to pay a little extra, if necessary, to buy products made in your country and help keep your domestic work force employed.

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Does being in the "United State of Alaska" count? BJ... do you know if the CMT bits advertised are all matched height and sized to work with Sommerfeld's EZSETUP jig?

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It looks like it'd make bit height setup a snap for quite a range of bits, in addition to the cabinet-making ones (8 total). Setting them up by eye is just a matter or trial-and-error tweaking with scrap but since they aren't "daily use" bits, a $30 jig that will set them accurately time each time, for a variety of wood thicknesses would be a worthwhile investment for me.

I understand that you'd probably rather make your own but since I work 60-70 hrs/week I hate to give up any more of my scarce shop time than necessary. Now if only I could find a "cure" for needing sleep or stop time for about 8 hours a day while in my shop...

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Hi Jim

The jig will work on the CMT bits and many more brands, the bit does not need to fit all the way in the jig, the lip is the key for using one..many bit profiles on the market place if I recall the jig is setup for the normal profile bit and yes the jig is great and it's worth the 30 dollar price tag..as you know I buy many brands of bits and most sale a setup block for the bits but they are not needed the norm with the EZ set jig.

Just a side note , you know what they say about burning the candle on both ends..don't work to hard life is short..I did for many years and now I'm a bit shorter for it.. you will need to change your name to Small Jim.

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Does being in the "United State of Alaska" count? BJ... do you know if the CMT bits advertised are all matched height and sized to work with Sommerfeld's EZSETUP jig?

Sommerfelds Easy Set Up Jig-Sommerfeld's Tools For Wood

It looks like it'd make bit height setup a snap for quite a range of bits, in addition to the cabinet-making ones (8 total). Setting them up by eye is just a matter or trial-and-error tweaking with scrap but since they aren't "daily use" bits, a $30 jig that will set them accurately time each time, for a variety of wood thicknesses would be a worthwhile investment for me.

I understand that you'd probably rather make your own but since I work 60-70 hrs/week I hate to give up any more of my scarce shop time than necessary. Now if only I could find a "cure" for needing sleep or stop time for about 8 hours a day while in my shop...



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