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Ok, so I'm finally getting closer to those summer projects I want to start. The weather has turned to spring conditions, it's cool outside and now is the time to get started. (I'm total newbie to woodworking).

I'm looking at spending about $1.5k-2k on a new tablesaw, but of course now I'm realizing I need 220v receptacle in my house garage.

So what I want to know is, how much should I expect to pay in Central CA, for an electrician to come do this for me?

I have a run-of-the-mill cookie cutter home built about 7yrs ago in a standard residential neighborhood. Nothing fancy.

I need two 220v receptacles wired in there for tablesaw, etc, along with probably four standard 110v receptacles on the walls and maybe two more on the ceiling.

What kind of price should I expect to pay for hiring an electrician to take care of this? Naturally (murphy's law in full effect) the damn box on the opposite side of the house than the garage. I have no idea what a going rate for this kind of project would be, or how much time it should take?

Is there anything I could do before, to save money?
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Michael....

how many open breakers do you have in your electrical panel for starters?

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Ok, don't laugh but I'm not sure, even by looking at the box. haha. It has one little metal panel at the bottom that doesn't seem to be punched.

I picked up a wonderful book on electricity for the home, but not have had a chance to read it. Here is a picture of the box.





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I just noticed it says Jacuzzi. Um...that didn't come with the house and I don't have one. Lol.
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Hi Michael

Looks like you can add and move in some new breaks in the panel but that's no big deal running the wire to the garage maybe but you may need to add a sub panel it looks like you are at the max for the service you now have you may need to go with a 200 amp.service.

I would suggest you call someone and have them give you a heads call, you can pull the permit in your name and do a home owners job.
If you do almost all the work you will save a ton of money, if not I would say you are looking a 300.oo to 500.oo bill..if not more, it's running the wire that will run the cost up..

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Ok, so I'm finally getting closer to those summer projects I want to start. The weather has turned to spring conditions, it's cool outside and now is the time to get started. (I'm total newbie to woodworking).

I'm looking at spending about $1.5k-2k on a new tablesaw, but of course now I'm realizing I need 220v receptacle in my house garage.

So what I want to know is, how much should I expect to pay in Central CA, for an electrician to come do this for me?

I have a run-of-the-mill cookie cutter home built about 7yrs ago in a standard residential neighborhood. Nothing fancy.

I need two 220v receptacles wired in there for tablesaw, etc, along with probably four standard 110v receptacles on the walls and maybe two more on the ceiling.

What kind of price should I expect to pay for hiring an electrician to take care of this? Naturally (murphy's law in full effect) the damn box on the opposite side of the house than the garage. I have no idea what a going rate for this kind of project would be, or how much time it should take?

Is there anything I could do before, to save money?



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hey Michael..

well, from the looks of it... you have enough panel, just not enough available circuits. You might be able to dance around enough to open up a 220 line and maybe a 110, but it dont look like much more than that. I don't think moving up to a 200amp service would be necessary. Looks like everything is pretty well staggered and really nothing unusual to be pulling an ungodly load on the lines.
Just another opinion here would be to have a sub panel installed in your garage. I have no idea what the building codes would be for your area, and since your in CA. I can only guess as to just how ridiculous they might be. So the first thing I would do would be have an licensed electrician come in and give you an idea as to what you "have" to do to meet code requirements. At 25-50 bucks an hour, an hour worth of his/her time could be monies very well spent.
I'd go with a subpanel for a number of reasons.
One wire run to the garage from the main panel to the sub.
Easy access to the sub panel from the garage and shop area
Much shorter runs from the sub panel to the outlets
Sub panel with a disconnect will allow you to cut the power while your making your connections in the box. (thinking here, that you dont' have alot of wiring background??) much safer.

First and foremost.. IF you are not comfortable with, have no experience with or just arn't sure, this isn't the place to learn without someone with experience there to help ya out...SAFETY FIRST!!!!!
If a breaker does trip, and it will, no having to run through the house back to the main
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Wow, thanks for the great feedback on this. I need a plan for sure on this. I know a lot of things about a lot of things, but to be honest, the idea of messing with electricity scares the (@#! out of me, as I don't have a clear understanding of how it all works.

I like idea of doing a sub-box in the garage. I would have no problem running wires and all that, just actually hooking things up would be a 'no way' for me.

Ok, so I'll first create a floorplan of the garage that shows placement of the new outlets, as well as placement of the whopping 1 outlet the house came standard with. Then I'll need to figure out how much wire and all that to buy from Home Depot. I'm assuming they have this kind of stuff for purchase for this job, such as the subbox and any of those black switches that go inside?

TwoSkies, when you say 'moving up to a 200amp service, what does that mean? I call PG&E and tell them to give me more power, like I'm some mad scientist running experiments from the garage?

So, for running a sub-box at the garage, are these things usually inside or outside of a house? I want to start looking at placement of the box and such, and how do I run wire to the main box? Can I house it under the roof line inside thin PVC? Hmm...much research. Thanks for the feedback so far. MUCH appreciated! I want to hurry up and get this done.
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Hi Bill

That's a new one for me,I didn't know you could run a line from the main box without it being on a breaker in the main or sub box next to the main, for total control of the power in the house.
One Main master control.
And your right a sub panel box (100 amp.type) in the garage would be the way to go..

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Michael...excellent call on your part!!!! if ya ain't sure.. don't mess with it...

quite honestly, its more scary than technical in alot of regards, however. just one little "OPS" can bite ya in the ass pretty hard...if not do ya in... good call!!!

it looks to me like you have a 100-125 amp panel. This is the amp load rating the panel is capable of handling. A 200 amp service is a panel rated to handle up to 200amps.
You need to make sure you get the right size cable for to run from the main panel to the sub panel. This will be based on length of run and size of subpanel (amps) Local supplier should be able to tell ya that. if not the electrician. 10 or 8 ga. maybe? I can't say for certain. I'd make the run in conduit. using stranded wire. Conduit is nice, neat, clean and straight forward to install. If you have a few bends to make, which you probably will, save them for when the electrican comes in. I seriously doubt you can run it inside of thin pvc...

ASk around, inquire about experiences with electricians, and find a name.. if no luck there, try asking at the big box stores when your shopping, those guys usually know a few folks... yellow pages, free estimates .. etc....what ever it is ya do, make sure first...
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Michael...excellent call on your part!!!! if ya ain't sure.. don't mess with it...

quite honestly, its more scary than technical in alot of regards, however. just one little "OPS" can bite ya in the ass pretty hard...if not do ya in... good call!!!

it looks to me like you have a 100-125 amp panel. This is the amp load rating the panel is capable of handling. A 200 amp service is a panel rated to handle up to 200amps.
You need to make sure you get the right size cable for to run from the main panel to the sub panel. This will be based on length of run and size of subpanel (amps) Local supplier should be able to tell ya that. if not the electrician. 10 or 8 ga. maybe? I can't say for certain. I'd make the run in conduit. using stranded wire. Conduit is nice, neat, clean and straight forward to install. If you have a few bends to make, which you probably will, save them for when the electrican comes in. I seriously doubt you can run it inside of thin pvc...

ASk around, inquire about experiences with electricians, and find a name.. if no luck there, try asking at the big box stores when your shopping, those guys usually know a few folks... yellow pages, free estimates .. etc....what ever it is ya do, make sure first...
Michael,
As a contractor and licensed home inspector I can tell you that all of the above advice is sound. Your on the right track with the creating the floor plan first and then consulting a licensed electrician. It will help them greatly if you have specs for the larger tools so they know what kind of amperage capacity you will be needing. Building codes will require that a licensed electrician does any work with a new service. As others have said, if you're even a little unsure of what you are doing, hire a professional! A lot of things can happen if this is done improperly and none of them are good.

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