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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-26-2010, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Well, I had to return my drill press. It was a Canadian Tire Mastercraft Maximum and it was a nice little drill press.

I replaced it with a BusyBee CT020N. This is identical to the Radial Arm Drill Presses sold by Grizzly and ShopFox and functionally identical to many others, including the Mastercraft I just returned. So far, I've compared 10 different drill presses and all share the same parts.

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Here's the problem:

When I turn the handle to bring down the quill and the drill bit it is as if the pinion is out of alignment with the rack. The noise is wicked like two pieces of metal grinding themselves to death. This is with the motor turned off. It is much worse with the motor turned on, even at the lowest speed -- 5XX RPM.

I have eliminated the following:

1. the belt has been removed and the problem persists. I put the belt back with the same result.

2. I adjusted the belt tension so it is slacker, no change.

3. While the belt was removed I tried just rotating the front pully no noise. I rotate the pully by hand and bring down the quill, death march.

4. I removed the spring and the handle and the pinion and the pinion looks fine. I can't see much of the rack.

5. I put the pinion back with a bit of synthetic grease (a dab on the end of my index finger in total) no change.

6. I have adjusted the tension on the spring, I've adjusted the spring.

BusyBee is going to send me a new pinion and see what that does. In the mean time, I'm having to work with this thing and if there is something that I can do to make it serviceable, I will.

Have you had similar experiences to this? What was the fix -- the quill or the rack or the pinion? Any place that I haven't looked yet?

Thanks for the help.

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Why not just return the whole thing and get a new one? Something is obviously wrong with the quill and/or spindle mechanism. Chances are that, by now, the whole thing is now messed up. Could be a bad bearing, spindle binding, or something else but since it's been making noise, it's likely that metal has been scored. Unless ou want to disassemble the whole thing, bring it would probably be best to return it.
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hi Ron
you say the dp is identical to grizzly and many others. it may look similar, but may be totally different.

i do know that grizzly doesnt sell junk. ive seen a lot of complaints on busy bee. there is a grizzly near the canadian border. is the shipping that expensive?

i agree with Robert, carry it back and try a more reputable company.

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Hey Ron...just throwing darts here....

looking at the owners manual for this thing:

http://busybeetools.com/manuals/CT020N.pdf

I'd be inclined to take a look at the drive sleeve and spindle assembly. You might have a burr or loose piece of metal caught in there. You've kinda taken the bearings out of play.. there is a internal retainer ring that may not have been seated properly. One way or the other, i'm guessin' the headstock will be coming apart if you can't get that top pulley off.

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I have no idea how the drill is put together. but it sounds like the rack, or pinion gear is loose. If the bolts are used to hold the gear part is loose,it can sound like they are tearing the metal apart. If any part is misaligned, or loose, it could cause the same results. I know that it sounds terrible. I agree with the others, get a new one. If Grissley is better, I would try that. You can check the rack and pinion just by moving the handle, i would guess. The movement, and action You get from it should be solid, and it should move without any noise, or feeling the movement of the of the gears meshing against each other. It's a bad experience to have a new tool that doesn't work properly, It can make turn around, and never try that brand again. I wish You a much better experience the next time.

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Ron mine makes no noise whatsoever. I agree you should return it and request a replacement. Why should you be responsible for repairing the issue?

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Hi All:

Thanks for the responses.

I had to drive 5 hours each way on two separate weekends to get this. I'm not about to make that trip again unless I absolutely have to.

Levon, I agree, this should not be junk but this one is. Yes, it is identical to the Grizzly and Jet models. It is parts replaceable identical.

To the others suggesting I take it back, if I were closer, I wouldn't touch a bolt. However, I have a unique opportunity to learn how a drill press is assembled and adjusted. That also means that I get to learn how to modify it to meet my specific requirements. I'm not about to pass that up.

I firmly believe that these drill presses use the same basic components to populate all of their models and add "features" to adjust the price as needed. My objective is to fix this problem, learn and upgrade all at the same time.

However, I still need to learn from you and how you resolved problems with drill presses. They're pretty simple when you start to look closely at them.

However I will take all your councils and examine more thoroughly, especially the rack and spline. However, it is possible that it is the head casting itself.

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I vannot help with the specific of this item but I can offer moral support: Buying big machines (or anything else for that matter) from Busy Bee is a crap shoot.

I am in the same boat with their band saw and even worse, the CT039 lathe. They will send you the parts but the parts do not always fit. I have had to do a stack of work on my unit already and feel that I have not found all the hidden faults.

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I vannot help with the specific of this item but I can offer moral support: Buying big machines (or anything else for that matter) from Busy Bee is a crap shoot.

I am in the same boat with their band saw and even worse, the CT039 lathe. They will send you the parts but the parts do not always fit. I have had to do a stack of work on my unit already and feel that I have not found all the hidden faults.

Cost of living in a small rural community...
Hi Crquack:

You have an advantage with the band saw, it is dead simple. However, putting the riser in isn't a treat. What a job. The problem with the band saw is that the castings are still rough and in some cases needed to be "tuned."

No experience with the lathe though. Sorry, can't help there.

Thanks for speaking up though.

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Guess I've been lucky so far. Craftex Jointer, Radial Drill Press, 1HP Dust Collector, Bench Mortiser, and all have worked as advertised. But there are a lot of things I WOULDN'T buy from them.

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