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I seldom use a plane, mainly because I find they are a pain in.... But I have had occasion recently to see where one would help me. But, I am not a mechanical engineer, don't know calculus, am not a machinist with a full metal working shop and have short attention span. Therefore my eyes glaze over when I read the page long instructions for "rehabilitating an old plane" and I nod off.
So. Which old planes are worth the effort? I only need a couple jack plane type tools for quick removal of material. I found an old 5 1/2 Stanley that I have torn apart and am trying to clean but now I gotta remember how to put it back together!!
Can you guys suggest THREE planes I should have. I will not spend $150 for a new Stanley and the $300 for a Lie Nielson gives me palpitations!!
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Hi Warren

At one time I did collect old planes ,I had about 200 or so, most sit in a display case most of the time , you don't need one if you don't use them all the time and you are right they are a pain in the back and the legs....I will suggest you just pickup a good little block plane it will do most of the jobs for you.

Most buy one or two and than say OK now what and they go back in the box for many years or hang on the shop wall for a very long time..

It made me so mad when someone wanted to sell me a nice old plane and they reworked it and made a very nice door stop..

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I seldom use a plane, mainly because I find they are a pain in.... But I have had occasion recently to see where one would help me. But, I am not a mechanical engineer, don't know calculus, am not a machinist with a full metal working shop and have short attention span. Therefore my eyes glaze over when I read the page long instructions for "rehabilitating an old plane" and I nod off.
So. Which old planes are worth the effort? I only need a couple jack plane type tools for quick removal of material. I found an old 5 1/2 Stanley that I have torn apart and am trying to clean but now I gotta remember how to put it back together!!
Can you guys suggest THREE planes I should have. I will not spend $150 for a new Stanley and the $300 for a Lie Nielson gives me palpitations!!



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3 planes are good, but 4 are better.

#7, #5 (or a 5 1/2), #4 and a good low angle block plane would be your most popular choices and you can do about anything with this combination.
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I seldom use a plane, mainly because I find they are a pain in.... But I have had occasion recently to see where one would help me. But, I am not a mechanical engineer, don't know calculus, am not a machinist with a full metal working shop and have short attention span. Therefore my eyes glaze over when I read the page long instructions for "rehabilitating an old plane" and I nod off.
So. Which old planes are worth the effort? I only need a couple jack plane type tools for quick removal of material. I found an old 5 1/2 Stanley that I have torn apart and am trying to clean but now I gotta remember how to put it back together!!
Can you guys suggest THREE planes I should have. I will not spend $150 for a new Stanley and the $300 for a Lie Nielson gives me palpitations!!

Hey Warren...

You don't have to be a mechanical engineer, you don't need to know calculus and you dont have to be a machinist. The attention span thing,,,well, we'll just have to see *L*..

Acquiring a plane: lots of roads you could take here, but you've pretty much made it clear the route you want to take. You dont' have to spend a fortune. You don't have to spend a hundred bucks....what you do have to do is pay attention to what you are buying. Alot of good planes can be had for 50 bucks or less. Older planes along the lines of Stanley, Miller Falls, Fulton and even craftsman (mfg. for sears by Miller Falls back in the day) are all great planes to name a few. If your lucky enough to come across a Stanley "Bedrock" for under a hundred thats is great shape, scarf it up!!!!
Which plane to get: If your looking for 3, I'd say a 5 or 6 (or anything in between), a 3 or 4 for finish work and a GOOD block plane for trim and touch up.

I love my planes! I enjoy tweaking em, setting em up, and putting them to work. Planes arn't for everyone obviously...and can require a good bit of effort at times. Other times a well tuned plane can glide over curly maple like it was on skates

In my opinion, without a SHARP iron, you might as well use sandpaper. With a sharp iron, you wont' need to use sandpaper...when you get to that point.. let us know..

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#7, #5 (or a 5 1/2), #4 and a good low angle block plane would be your most popular choices and you can do about anything with this combination.
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I seldom use a plane, mainly because I find they are a pain in.... But I have had occasion recently to see where one would help me. But, I am not a mechanical engineer, don't know calculus, am not a machinist with a full metal working shop and have short attention span. Therefore my eyes glaze over when I read the page long instructions for "rehabilitating an old plane" and I nod off.
So. Which old planes are worth the effort? I only need a couple jack plane type tools for quick removal of material. I found an old 5 1/2 Stanley that I have torn apart and am trying to clean but now I gotta remember how to put it back together!!
Can you guys suggest THREE planes I should have. I will not spend $150 for a new Stanley and the $300 for a Lie Nielson gives me palpitations!!

No matter what other planes you find, make sure you get a good low angle block plane.

You will find you will use this the most.


I have a 4, 4 1/2, 5. and 6 as well as a block plane and I still use the block plane the most.

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#7, #5 (or a 5 1/2), #4 and a good low angle block plane would be your most popular choices and you can do about anything with this combination.
Scrowth. Those planes are worth more than my car, and I bet that merely scratches the surface of the whole collection. You don't have those planes without a goodly "back up" supply. '-) Which ones are you missing?

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Warren I don't know where you are at but Busy Bee Tools in Canada sells Groz planes and when you get them on sale they are a good deal. They require a little work - the soles aren't true flat and the blades need serious sharpening. I put the bit of effort into mine and now have a decent set of wood planes, good enough for a wood enthusiast but definitely NOT comparable to Veritas or Lie Nielson. They do the job and that's what matters.

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I have 2 old planes that I have no idea about where I got them. They may have belonged to my great grandfather. I've been wanting to see if I could get them into some kind of decent shape but I'm not sure it would be worth the effort.

What's the first thing I should do to see if they're worth fixing up?
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Okay folks-now I'm rollin! Thanks to you I know what to look for. I will try to find the most complete planes I can that have good irons....I can always clean up the other parts. I found a 5 1/2 Stanly that is in pieces on one bench. I am trying to understand how it goes together and what wheels and levers to what!!?? I may have some serious questions to ask as I try to reassemble it.
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Canuck Gal...I have heard that GROZ stuff is pretty decent. My primary problem is going to be the "tuning" and repair work.
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