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I've been playing with planes recently and having a jolly time of it too. I can now sharpen until the shavings are consistent and thick or thin. But one thing has me puzzled, particularly with the block planes. I have a devil of a time getting iron in or out just where I want it.
On the No. 3 and No. 5 the brass adjust wheel sometimes appears to be doing nothing-screw it all the way in or out and nothing much happens. I've downloaded a bunch of stuff about Stanley but can't get any clue from what I have.
I'm sure the planes are fine.....it's just me. But what.....??
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Its not you.. *L*
Most of the older planes (Stanely, Fulton, Miller Falls etc.) can and often do have a great deal of slop in this adjustment. (the lack of this backlash is what makes so many of the Veritas/Lee Valley and Lie Neilsen planes so attractive to so many) In fact, I've got a new version of the Stanley and it even has a bit of backlash to my surprise. Even my Veritas planes have a small amount. This backlash really makes "tweaking" the iron setting a real challenge, especially when your in the middle of something.
the more you use your planes, the more you'll develop a instinctive feel for how much to turn the adjusting knob. Considering that more often than not, you're looking to pull shavings in the range of <.001 to .007/.008, not much adjustment is required (unless you're using a scrub) I can't say that I've even seen or read of how to take up some of this backlash??? Guessing its just something we gotta learn to live with.

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Hey Warren...

Its not you.. *L*
Most of the older planes (Stanely, Fulton, Miller Falls etc.) can and often do have a great deal of slop in this adjustment. (the lack of this backlash is what makes so many of the Veritas/Lee Valley and Lie Neilsen planes so attractive to so many) In fact, I've got a new version of the Stanley and it even has a bit of backlash to my surprise. Even my Veritas planes have a small amount. This backlash really makes "tweaking" the iron setting a real challenge, especially when your in the middle of something.
the more you use your planes, the more you'll develop a instinctive feel for how much to turn the adjusting knob. Considering that more often than not, you're looking to pull shavings in the range of <.001 to .007/.008, not much adjustment is required (unless you're using a scrub) I can't say that I've even seen or read of how to take up some of this backlash??? Guessing its just something we gotta learn to live with.
Okay, I can live with that. I'll keep messing around but turning and turning the knob in and out to no effect on a No.3 starts getting annoying. Same with the little block planes. Once set they are fine because I have really worked at sharpening. And I added Hock irons to a #3 and a #5.
But that's all I'm buying. No more. Ain't buyin' no more.
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.... where have we heard that before
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Hi Warren,

How do the Hock blades compare to the Stanley blade?

I am thinking of upgrading mine to Hock blades.

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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.... where have we heard that before


BOY OH BOY, ain't that the truth!!!

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Hi Warren,

How do the Hock blades compare to the Stanley blade?

I am thinking of upgrading mine to Hock blades.
James...

difference is like night and day!!

I base this on upgrading my #7 to the hock iron and chip breaker. Hock hand selects his steel
thus improving edge quality and retention. 2nd the Hock irons are thicker/heavier thus reducing
the amount of chatter... excellant choice of iron...

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Hi Warren,

How do the Hock blades compare to the Stanley blade?

I am thinking of upgrading mine to Hock blades.
I've only had mine a couple weeks but there simply is NO comparison between the Hock and the Stanley. I paid less for the planes from Ebay than I did the Hocks, but the new irons also totally changed the usefulness of the planes.
This Hock fella makes me think of Pat Warner......guys who really know their stuff, are honest and straightforward in their dealings and have been able to make living at something they enjoy.

I'd say buy them.
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Thanks Bill and Warren

I have bought a 4 , 4 1/2, 5 and 6 over the past 24 months and will look seriously at the Hock blades to really make them useful

I also have a Goz #4.

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Thanks Bill and Warren

I have bought a 4 , 4 1/2, 5 and 6 over the past 24 months and will look seriously at the Hock blades to really make them useful

I also have a Goz #4.
You might also want to take a look at the Lie Nielsen replacement blades, James.

Lie-Nielsen Toolworks USA | Replacement Blades

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