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My neighbour is a hoarder. He makes all kinds of artsy stuff with it, but he showed me this monster oak-aproned bench vise and I turned it down at first, until I looked at how I would need one for my own work. Anyway the oak apron is over 27" wide, but the threaded rod is a TWO INCH ACME Threaded lug nut from the Titanic!

I checked the nut specs here:
Acme Inch Screw and Nut Information - Nook Industries, Inc. PowerAc Acme Screws and Nuts

Here's a picture of it! The tiles below are 10" square tiles. The shaft is 12" long, and that 1.5" oak stabilizer bar is as good as new!

Old Vise Advice?-woodvise_01.jpg

Anyone have an idea who might have made that beast? That handle and swivel hub are all solid steel (1" diameter).

I'll use it as a Front vise on my bench, once I get it built. Now I just need a Titanic Anchor to hold it down! Looking at that chart, it can handle up to 54,000 lbs of pressure at the nut!

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I found a good description of it here (Figures 56 and 57):

Bench-Vise

Anyway, I also have that book in PDF (huge file from the Archive.org site, as referenced in that article. Its a google produced PDF file. The article in the book is dealing with a woodworker's first bench and mounting vises of different types, what dimensions and where to locate it. That Oak stake mounts below the handle vertically. IE, The vise is not installed horizontally on the oak face width.

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Pretty neat, I would like one just for a conversational piece if nothing else

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My neighbour is a hoarder. He makes all kinds of artsy stuff with it, but he showed me this monster oak-aproned bench vise and I turned it down at first, until I looked at how I would need one for my own work. Anyway the oak apron is over 27" wide, but the threaded rod is a TWO INCH ACME Threaded lug nut from the Titanic!

I checked the nut specs here:
Acme Inch Screw and Nut Information - Nook Industries, Inc. PowerAc Acme Screws and Nuts

Here's a picture of it! The tiles below are 10" square tiles. The shaft is 12" long, and that 1.5" oak stabilizer bar is as good as new!

Attachment 48038

Anyone have an idea who might have made that beast? That handle and swivel hub are all solid steel (1" diameter).

I'll use it as a Front vise on my bench, once I get it built. Now I just need a Titanic Anchor to hold it down! Looking at that chart, it can handle up to 54,000 lbs of pressure at the nut!
The thread looks far too fine to be an Acme thread, how about a close-up shot Norm.

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The thread looks far too fine to be an Acme thread, how about a close-up shot Norm.
More Pics kind sir?

Old Vise Advice?-woodvise_02.jpg Old Vise Advice?-woodvise_03.jpg

Old Vise Advice?-woodvise_04.jpg Old Vise Advice?-woodvise_05.jpg

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I went digging again and came up with a couple of AWESOME sites on 'Vintage Woodworking Tools" sites.

Papawd, you will be impressed!

This one is about Woodworking History. About 3 paragraphs down is a link to Delta's old 1931 catalog.
primary sources -- documents of the woodworking movement

The first line starts with "We get an example..." the word ''catalog'' is the link to the PDF. That leads to this site!

VintageMachinery.org | Welcome

So I used their Search box with only the word "Vise" and got a list of all the US patents on Woodworking Vise, from this site:

All Patents of Type: woodworkers vises

Just going through them.

Anyway, I haven't figured out how the "Reprints" menu works on that Vintage site. They only show the first most recent uploads from their fans. All of the 4463 reprints are free, copyright free, dowloads of old machinery documents and manuals. So I suggest that you 'RIGHT CLICK" that "CATALOG" link, I mentioned and get it there. It is "FULL COLOR" - Black, White and Red product names.

AND! As an added bonus, for reading my long post, you can get this copyright free book, from here.

"How to make Woodwork Tools"
Library - How To Make Things - Toolemera.com

Again! "Right Click and Save As..." it.

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TADA!!! I found it!

I think it depends on how its installed. It could be a "Leg Vise" or a "Face Vise"

Traditional Face Vice

Richard Maguire - Workbench Leg Vice

Neat site. Pricey benches.

The Workbenches

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And! Installation and setup instructions! Different site, but the principles are the same to install that vise.

BenchCrafted.com - Downloads

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That is a neat artifact Norm. It would be fun to restore this on a clasical bench. As far as building a bench for everyday use I think a newer design with a quick release feature would be more practical. Not trying to rain on your parade; just offering my thoughts on this. I know many people prefer to recondition older tools and carry on the tradition and that is pretty cool.

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Hi Norm

You can see it action on the Roy Underhill web site.it's a very old type of vise I don't recall the right link (video) but he is into Old woodworking tools

PBS - Woodwright's Shop: Schedule

I made one out of Oak a long time ago but it's long gone. it was all out of oak ,no metal at all and a 2" screw..

It did work well But a bit of a tank to use

Just as a side note ++++ at one time I sold Acme rod plus nuts, from 1/4" to 3" diam.one day I said I wanted a Hvy.duty vise and the Acme rod is great for that, so that's what I did see below, I think I still have some chunks of it about in the shop in a corner

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That is a neat artifact Norm. It would be fun to restore this on a clasical bench. As far as building a bench for everyday use I think a newer design with a quick release feature would be more practical. Not trying to rain on your parade; just offering my thoughts on this. I know many people prefer to recondition older tools and carry on the tradition and that is pretty cool.
I'm tending to agree. My shop is too small... for now.

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