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After much thought and reading on thickness planers versus Jointers I believe a 6" Jointer will be the next addition to the shop. Do you see any problems with buying the jointer before the thickness planer? And any problems with the PC/Delta 6" Jointer? Shop PORTER-CABLE 2-Blade 120-Volt Bench Jointer at Lowes.com OR Amazon.com: DELTA JT160 Shopmaster 10 Amp 6-Inch Benchtop Jointer: Home Improvement

From what I can tell the PC and Delta are one in the same except for the name. Since some Amazon buyers had problems with the DELTA JT160 Shopmaster 10 Amp 6-Inch Benchtop Jointers table I will buy locally and get the PC version PC160JT.

Any and all input is welcome as I would much rather here it now than later.

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Did you read the reviews? 2 of them address an uneven or twisted table, I noticed the steel city unit has cast iron tables. If your heart is set on this one then I guess go for it, with a caveat or two, 1) I am an avid craigslister, don't rule them out. 2) is 6" wide enough for you? I face joint my lumber, as well as edge joint it. I face joint first before planing so that I get a FLAT face to run through the planer. Remember that all the planer will do is give a consistent thickness, if a board is bent or twisted or bowed, it will go through the planer that way, and come out thicknessed evenly but the problem will still be there. I think Jointer first is good, will MOST of your lumber be 6" wide or less? You may find a much more substantial jointer for the same money or less, used!

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This just my 2 cents

I would back off both of the toys, you want something with mass to it, I will suggest the one below,it's almost the same price, you want the bed as long as you can get it and as true as it can be..that's why most of the good ones are cast steel..
The key for most jointers ,it needs to get the chip out of the machine so they don't go around and around.

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Jim, the reason the Delta and PC look so much alike is because Black & Decker bought both of those companies and destroyed them. They sold the Delta brand name to a chinese company and then turned around and released all the identical products under the Porter Cable name. The really funny part of this story is that the chinese company that bought Delta is once again building the Unisaw in the US using mostly US made parts.

I used to own one of the small 6" Delta's and I now own the HF jointer BJ posted a link for. Hands down the HF is the way to go. Good advice from Jack; I bought mine from craigslist.

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As Bob said you want something with some mass to it, which is what I was eluding to when I said you could get something more substantial, I meant more mass, also why I pointed out the Steel City unit, (cast iron tables as I read it), but certainly more is better in this regards. I think these two units you are looking at are more for a trim installer to cart around to a job site and just do touch up, rather than to use to turn rough lumber into an heirloom. 2-3-4 hundred pounds will be in your favor.

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I grabbed a 6 inch Ridgid off of craigslist a while back, the previous owner was trading up to a wider one. Nice and heavy, and it was fairly inexpensive.

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Well you have opened my eyes with your input and I greatly appreciate your thoughts and advice.

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Hi

This just my 2 cents

I would back off both of the toys, you want something with mass to it, I will suggest the one below,it's almost the same price, you want the bed as long as you can get it and as true as it can be..that's why most of the good ones are cast steel..
The key for most jointers ,it needs to get the chip out of the machine so they don't go around and around.

But it's your money buy the one you like

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It's been discontinued, so he might find it hard to find.

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I didn't read the other post yet. Why don't you buy the Ridgid jointer with a life time warrenty. I have one and it was dead on when i set it up. All that need to be set wat the fence for the 90 degree's and 45 degree's . After that all is fine it come's with a dust shoot for 4" dust colector pipe which i use on it. Both bed's move which is good if you change blade's you can move the outfeed table if needed. Mine right out of the box was good no need for adjustment . my 2 cents

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I'm going to give another spin. I have the 6" aluminum feed sides Delta and it works for what I need, which is lengths shorter than 30" and boards less than 6" width. Got it for $100 on CL in great shape. PO moved up to bigger Delta DJ-20 8" with 6' of infeed/outfeed. The 6" allows me to start with rough cut boards. Big plus is it fits in my shop.

If you plan to joint longer length boards, you need to consider the infeed and outfeed lengths. I'm sure there is a rule of thumb for that. The short aluminum feed sides of the Delta are adequate for shorter lengths only.

Think through what you intend to make. If 6" width boards are adequate, then fine. Otherwise, as Jack pointed out, glue-up and flattening will drive you wild later.

Probably 30 days and 50 board feet after getting the 6" jointer with knives, you will realize that you really covet a 10" with Byrd type head. For that reason, like others have said, I would also recommend your first jointer be from CL at a good price, just make sure you see it operate. Then you can later trade up later to the biggest your shop can fit.

I know a guy with 12" jointer, Byrd head and 4' feed sides. All I can say is WOW.

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