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I work as a furniture restorer in southern Sweden, so I do not fabricate so much new furniture- it is mostly restauration/conservation.
However, I am about to make 22 new chairs, thus I need to make a lots of tennons. I have a Robland XTZ ( I think that is the propper name of this model ) a combination tablesaw/router.
Like most combinationmachines you are supposed to use the slidingtable for the saw also when you make tennons on the router. However, The routerspindle on this model is placed very far in on the table. This means that you can clamp the workingpiece no closer than about 8 inc from the spindle. I think that is very hazzardus. There are risk of severe vibrations on such a long piece.
So my idea is to mount the sliding rail for the slidingtable on the opposite side of the machine. Then you come very close with the clamp.
I gratefully lucking forward to your oppinions on this idea
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It looks, That your machine is a combinated saw + shaper.
I' ve heard they make a special accessory sort of heavy travel part to make tenons.
I's true that making tenons with 8" in the air would be shaking a lot.
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Hello!

If the tenon making accessory is not possible for your machine,
you can also make a sled like this one :

http://copeaux.duberry.pagesperso-or...20tenonner.pdf

Or find some maker for an universal attachement in this style:

Chariot de tenonnage - Chariot de sciage pour toupies, pour scies

Sorry about french links but it gives an idea.

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Thank you verry much for your reply.
The one made of wood seem to be an exelent and inexpensive alternative.
I will consider it, absolutely.
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Hello!
Yes i think it could make 1000 's accurate tenons for a real low cost.
Could not find any picts of your Robland xtz ...
Is it a Dia 30mm axis ?
Is half of table sliding at limit to the saw?

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I work as a furniture restorer in southern Sweden, so I do not fabricate so much new furniture- it is mostly restauration/conservation.
However, I am about to make 22 new chairs, thus I need to make a lots of tennons. I have a Robland XTZ ( I think that is the propper name of this model ) a combination tablesaw/router.
Like most combinationmachines you are supposed to use the slidingtable for the saw also when you make tennons on the router. However, The routerspindle on this model is placed very far in on the table. This means that you can clamp the workingpiece no closer than about 8 inc from the spindle. I think that is very hazzardus. There are risk of severe vibrations on such a long piece.
So my idea is to mount the sliding rail for the slidingtable on the opposite side of the machine. Then you come very close with the clamp.
I gratefully lucking forward to your oppinions on this idea
Best regards
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My only suggestion is to contact the manufacturer and try to get a user manual. I found a brochure online for the XTZ30 but couldn't get to the website. This is the only contact information I could find.

GROOTE MARKT 20 • POSTBUS 22 • NL-4524 CD SLUIS • NEDERLAND
 +31 (0) 117 - 462880 • TELEFAX +31 (0) 117 - 462888
|DOMAIN|

That said, I would consider a machine of that type good for continuous production, not a few hundred. I'd do the setup using a router in a table.

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Hello allthunbs!
Hello Jesper !

When speaking about 1000's tenons, was speaking of a home-made sled.
Could find plans for that, with provision for sacrificial wood.
It could be just sliding or screwed to the moving side of table saw.
The only problem is good clamping, only C-clamps and some good lever-clamp
can stand vibrations level it makes.
Maybe robland got a brochure, but could not find any myself.
The machine may look like one of thoses, but here, only the last models figures.

Combined woodworking machines | Combined woodworking machines Robland | Robland

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Hello Gerard and Althunbs and thankyou for your engagement in my problem.
You can find pictures of Roblandmachines on yahoo. They have forum for owners of this machine. But that is only full combinationmachines with a planer included. My robland looks like that ( green ) but without planer And yes, the axis is 30 mm
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