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I did some 12'' cross cuts for my last home project. I have a cheap small table saw and I could not control the accuracy at all. So I used my circular saw with guide. The accuracy is OK but I am not satisfied and it is inconvenient.

Now I want to take a look at miter saw for my future use. Is the sliding feature worth the extra money? Or I just save all the money to buy a better table saw? Thanks for suggestions.
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I did some 12'' cross cuts for my last home project. I have a cheap small table saw and I could not control the accuracy at all. So I used my circular saw with guide. The accuracy is OK but I am not satisfied and it is inconvenient.

Now I want to take a look at miter saw for my future use. Is the sliding feature worth the extra money? Or I just save all the money to buy a better table saw? Thanks for suggestions.
Hi Will, IMO a 12" cross cut is a stretch for even a slider and most table saws haven't got the infeed capacity to do that very safely either. Handling a long board on a table saw for a crosscut of any length can also be dicey. I put in a 10" slider because of the size of my shop. Crosscutting anything over about 4' long I run into interference issues with something. A 10" slider gets me out to about an 11" crosscut capacity, Infeed area on my table saw only gives me about 8 or 9". Anything outside those parameters I use a circular with an edge guide or guide clamp. Takes a little extra time to set up but I can get some decent cuts with a good blade.

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I've got a 10 inch slider, which I love. It has been a great tool for plank flooring, wainscotting, and other jobs that require a longer cut. If I had to do it again... maybe a 12 inch miter saw might be my first choice.

The biggest issue with the slider in my case is the footprint it takes up. With the tubes all the way retracted, it needs a lot of space behind the saw. It can take up too much space in a crowded shop.

A couple of new sliders have a space saving design, but they're a little pricey.

A speed square and a circular saw do a great job for the infrequent wide crosscut.

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New ones from either De Walt, Makita or best yet Metabo 315mm blade offer unbelievable accuracy and functionality.
Clearly depends upon your budget/amount of use you will put it to, to warrant 600.00 etc. But they really are awesome bits of kit. I couldnt live without mine now I have got used to having the facility.

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Hey Will, I have the Hitachi 12" sliding compound miter this saw has a sliding feature which allows it to take up less space from wall than my old 10" Dewalt , (sold 2 old Dwalts and 2 Craftsman since I purchased this saw) it is mounted in a table along wall in my shop 12' on one end and about 5' on the other, gives me plenty of room for long cuts. I use this for alot of cuts and frees up the table saw for ripping and other uses

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I haven't found anything more accurate than my TS and my crosscut sled for straight crosscutting and it gives me about 16" width plus fairly long, depeding on how much weight I'm holding up.
I have a 10" slider but it is not the most accurate. I use my father-in-laws 10" chop saw and with blade stiffeners and a good blade it is very good for crosscuts and mitres but has limited capacity.

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Sliders tend - tend - to be less accurate than their standard cousins. But the depth you aren't going to easily get with a SCMS.

Your best options, IMO, are for a better table saw or a RAS. The former could be accomplished by simply adding aux infeed, outfeed and extension tables to your saw, any saw.

I want the Hitachi Warren has, but even with it's system it would still take up significantly more room than my 10" Hitachi does.

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To the nub of your question:
A good, accurate table saw is the workhorse of most shops.
While a SCMS is very handy, a good TS is much more so.
As Doug mentioned, a speed square and a circular saw works well for cross cutting wider stock. It's fast and accurate. I might add, a good, sharp blade vastly increases the enjoyment of the experience.

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I would go for the good table saw over a slider. The table saw in the heart of your shop and a cheap inaccurate one is just a waste of lumber and time. Keep you eye on Craigs list and you should be able to get one at half the cost.
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A decent Table Saw and an INCRA Miter 5000 will let you do anything a SCMS will do but potentially more accurately.

Horses for courses though, if you mainly install trim then the SCMS is the answer.
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