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Okay. You guys have brushed on this here and there. But now I want to know. Buying me a Christmas present.

"Osborne EB3 Excalibur Miter Gauge vs. Incra 1000SE Miter Gauge"

I want to buy just one of the 2. Here is what I have going on...

I have a saw with 2 left miter slots. First is 10" from the blade. Second is 10" from that miter slot. All three of my miter slots (2 left, 1 right) extend across 48".

Obsborne has good reviews as being sturdy and accurate. It gets knocks for not being able to adapt things (accessories and fence extensions) to their special fence extrusion.

Incra has good reviews as being very accurate. It has a standard aluminum extrusion that you can hang accessories off of. It gets knocks for fence flex.

Now let me throw a wrench into it... I can get both for about the same price, if I buy soon. (Christmas specials.) I want the ability to add another lower priced miter gauge, that can attach to an aluminum extrusion, to use "my" second miter slot for support... Using the hybrid assembly as a crosscut fence. I have jigs, fence stops, material hold-downs and other accessories that mount via t-slots...

So, let's hear from owner's here who have one of them and what they think might work best for me for what "I" want to use it for. Info please?

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Okay. You guys have brushed on this here and there. But now I want to know. Buying me a Christmas present.

"Osborne EB3 Excalibur Miter Gauge vs. Incra 1000SE Miter Gauge"

I want to buy just one of the 2. Here is what I have going on...

I have a saw with 2 left miter slots. First is 10" from the blade. Second is 10" from that miter slot. All three of my miter slots (2 left, 1 right) extend across 48".

Obsborne has good reviews as being sturdy and accurate. It gets knocks for not being able to adapt things (accessories and fence extensions) to their special fence extrusion.

Incra has good reviews as being very accurate. It has a standard aluminum extrusion that you can hang accessories off of. It gets knocks for fence flex.

Now let me throw a wrench into it... I can get both for about the same price, if I buy soon. (Christmas specials.) I want the ability to add another lower priced miter gauge, that can attach to an aluminum extrusion, to use "my" second miter slot for support... Using the hybrid assembly as a crosscut fence. I have jigs, fence stops, material hold-downs and other accessories that mount via t-slots...

So, let's hear from owner's here who have one of them and what they think might work best for me for what "I" want to use it for. Info please?

Mike,

If you have been followoing my threads you will recall that I ended up with both gauges. As to accuracy, both are equally accuratel, but required precise calibration that takes some careful care. Also the accuracy of either one requires that you use a blade with minimum flutter. I had to use a full kerf blade with a stabilizer to achieve this. I like both gauges but due to the Incra's ability to add the acessories that you mentioned I would go with it if I only could have one. Once I achieved the accuracy thst I needed with the Incra tool the Osborne has just been parked, but this is no reflection on the Osborne, it just that the Incra is set up with the fence and express sled that I use for crosscuts for many but not of my crosscuts. I will be watching for the posts of other members of this forum on this thread.

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I can only speak for the Osborne, but I love it. Rock solid fence, and I have had no issues with it.

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If you have been followoing my threads you will recall that I ended up with both gauges. As to accuracy, both are equally accuratel, but required precise calibration that takes some careful care. Also the accuracy of either one requires that you use a blade with minimum flutter. I had to use a full kerf blade with a stabilizer to achieve this. I like both gauges but due to the Incra's ability to add the acessories that you mentioned I would go with it if I only could have one. Once I achieved the accuracy thst I needed with the Incra tool the Osborne has just been parked, but this is no reflection on the Osborne, it just that the Incra is set up with the fence and express sled that I use for crosscuts for many but not of my crosscuts. I will be watching for the posts of other members of this forum on this thread.

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I remember that you had the Incra, but didn't remember you also had an Osborne. I thought of you specifically as I wrote the post and thought to PM (Private Message) you... But I have PM'ed you previously and heard nothing back, so I just figured you don't check your PM's and overlooked it.

Thank you. I figured the Incra would work for my needs. I figured the second miter gauge (my digital) in my second miter slot would add support to the fence and help prevent any fence flex.

But I know nothing about the Osborne Miter Gauge and it's fence, so I'm in a vacuum on that side of this. Just know what others have wrote about it... but really not specific info as related to my needs.

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I second Doug's Osborne experience. I haven't had a lot of time spent with mine yet as I just got it last week. So far I'm really impressed with it's rigidity. Don't care about hanging doodads off it; it comes with a flip stop and that's all I need...I want it as a rock solid crosscut platform, not for any other reason. I do all of my long length cross-cutting on my scms. I'll be interested in seeing how it performs, breaking down 2' x 8' x 3/4" plywood, accurately.
Mike, and my new ts toys, have inspired me to do a major cleaning and adjustment on my Delta Contractor saw; so far I've been very impressed with the factory adjustments, and how well the saw's maintained them. The blade's verticalness was the only glitch that needed attention...still playing with the stops.
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Doug and Dan- Thanks for the info. Makes my choice harder now.

Any help of posting a closeup of both fence fronts? The sale ads, I only see the rear. I have an idea that the Incra is a mirror of the back side. The Osborne? Is it just flat with sand paper for grip? (something I read)

Most my up to 12" is also crosscut on my SCMS. Over that? 2'x8'x3/4"... exactly. All over than on the TS. Use my sleds for most things. The t-slot attachments are already used on my sleds, so I already have them. Now just in an experimenting mood and was going to try other things.

One of those hang-offs I was thinking on... my finger joint jig. Even when I do order that other saw, I'm thinking I'm going to have to get a little creative to get stuff like that working on a sliding table. (I have ideas.) It still has miter slots. So what I buy now and use, will still be reused and expanded down the road.

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I remember that you had the Incra, but didn't remember you also had an Osborne. I thought of you specifically as I wrote the post and thought to PM (Private Message) you... But I have PM'ed you previously and heard nothing back, so I just figured you don't check your PM's and overlooked it.

Thank you. I figured the Incra would work for my needs. I figured the second miter gauge (my digital) in my second miter slot would add support to the fence and help prevent any fence flex.

But I know nothing about the Osborne Miter Gauge and it's fence, so I'm in a vacuum on that side of this. Just know what others have wrote about it... but really not specific info as related to my needs.
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First of all I am sorry about the PM. I don't recsll getting it, but obviously I mis-Qed.

The reason that I bought the Osborne tools was that I was not able to get my 30 degree cuts to be just exactly perfect for the hexegon ring that I was working on. It was after I got the Osborne and used it for a short time to see if it would work better than the Incra for my project. When it didn't is when I came to the conclusion that the problem was not in either miter gauge, but in the flutter of the thin kerf blade. As Doug has stated, the Osborne gauge is a very good gauge and you sure won't go wrong if you go that route, II do hope that you let us know which way you finally go and what leads you to your final choice.

By the way, in regard to the Osborne tool, they advertise that it is calibrated at the factory and ready to go right out of the box, I did not find that to be true of the copy that i got, but calibration is simple if you know how to do it, much like brain surgery, if you know what you are doing there is nothing to it, but if you don't, well you are probably not going to get the results that you are looking for. The Incra was not calibrated either when I first got it.

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Doug and Dan- Thanks for the info. Makes my choice harder now.

Any help of posting a closeup of both fence fronts? The Osborne? Is it just flat with sand paper for grip? (something I read)

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Here ya go.

The top of the fence will take any attachment that uses a standard size bolt. I usually have 2 flip stops on mine. I didn't put the sandpaper on, and I don't think I'm missing anything. I may add a hold down clamp like my old miter gage had, but things don't seem to move around any.

The end of the extrusion is also shown, If you wanted to, I don't think there would be any problem bolting on an additional sacrificial fence or box joint jig if you drilled a pair of holes.
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OK, my turn.
Bought the EB-3 several years ago, after comparing it with the Incra.

I saw one magazine review of miter gauges that said you couldn't flip it to the other side of the blade. Apparently the person/s that wrote the review have no idea to use them, and didn't read the instructions. I put the sand paper on mine. Works good.

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I do believe the Osbourne is the one that Norm used to endorse...

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