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The Washington DC TV stations are now airing a commercial that " if you were ever injured on a table saw accident you may be entitled to money for your injuries' Saw-Stop must be loving it.

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"Saw-Stop must be loving it."
Gass (Saw-Stop inventor and an attorney) probably has a financial interest in the law firm you reference.
I wouldn't put it past that greedy S.O.B.

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The Washington DC TV stations are now airing a commercial that " if you were ever injured on a table saw accident you may be entitled to money for your injuries' Saw-Stop must be loving it.

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Roger, maybe it was a slow coffee spilling week at McDonalds!

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I seriously doubt this subject will ever just end. Saw Stop won't be happy till they get their technology passed as mandatory for table saws. I just wonder what will be next.

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No comment. No Comment. (Hold it in)

Ah heck, I can't hold back. Reminds me of a joke the late George Carlin had on warning labels... Can't remember the exact wording, but here goes:

"If they find out mother's milk causes cancer, where are they going to put the label?"

Some operating manuals preface their safety instructions with something to the effect of "Common sense cannot be built into a power tool. Common sense needs to come from the operator."

PhilP has some good comments specifically on Saw Safety and how SawStop unsuccessfully tried to get there foot in the door in the UK.

Other than that (at least for now), I have no comment.

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Saw Stop won't be happy till they get their technology passed as mandatory for table saws. I just wonder what will be next.
In that case, Wayne, they had better make sure that their technology works on larger saws - the type used by industry - because it is probably impossible to legislate for saws sold only into the home shop market.

If we have a physicist here maybe they'd care to work it out the difference between the kinetic energy stored in a 2.8mm thick x 250mm (10in) diameter steel sawblade weighing c.1.2kg (2.5lb) running at 3,800 rpm (i.e. something like a typical Saw Stop saw blade) and that stored in a 4.2mm thick x 500mm (20in) diameter rip saw blade weighing c.6.5kg (14.3lbs) spinning at a relatively leasurely 2,200 rpm as you'll find in larger industrial rip saw. BTW the thicknesses given are saw plate thicknesses, not the kerfs and I haven't taken into taccount the extra weight of the carbide tips and brazing. Even so I calculate the kinetic energies (poor physicist that I am) as c.1490 J and c.10780 J respectively - or about a 7.25:1 difference. The relative motor sizes, 1.5HP (1.0kW) and 10HP (7.5kW) or more, respectively, is a clue. I shudder to think how large a "consumable" braking block would need to be, or how expensive, on industrial stuff.

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Ah heck, I can't hold back. Reminds me of a joke the late George Carlin had on warning labels... Can't remember the exact wording, but here goes:

"If they find out mother's milk causes cancer, where are they going to put the label?"
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"Saw-Stop must be loving it."
Gass (Saw-Stop inventor and an attorney) probably has a financial interest in the law firm you reference.
I wouldn't put it past that greedy S.O.B.


What is the reason for the negative attitude toward Saw Stop. This issue has been observed from time to time on other threads, just wondering as I am not familiar with the history of that company.
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What is the reason for the negative attitude toward Saw Stop. This issue has been observed from time to time on other threads, just wondering as I am not familiar with the history of that company.
Hi Jerry - Mr Gass owns the patents on the SawStop technology and for the last several years has been on a campaign to make it mandatory on all table saws in the U.S. Mostly with lawsuits against table saw manufacturers. SawStop equipped saws typically start at about $2500 and go up to around $5000. The technology is great but hard on saws, much of the price is beefing up the equipment to take the jolt, it stops and retracts the blade in <3 microseconds. In the process the braking system destroys itself and very likely the blade.
Bottom line is it would put table saws out of the financial reach of most hobbyists.

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Saw stop is a great saw buuut way to pricey for Me unless I hit lottery or quit work and go fulltime woodworking and then I would be probably hungry
I still cannot believe the Judge that gave the dingdong his case instead of throwing it out especially since He admitted taking off the safety features maybe Sawstop paid them off also

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