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I have decided that the reason I have so much "FUN" in my shed is that I am using recycled timber which is not always straight and true.

I am considering buying a 6" jointer such as this:

W619 | PT-6 Planer Jointer | machineryhouse.com.au

How many others have a jointer and is it as indispensable as I am led to believe?

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James,
I bought a little (old) 4" Sears Craftsman bench top jointer from my neighbor for $25. Put some new blades in it. Ran some boards through it and wondered how did I ever get along without one! Go for it.

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Howdy James.....

Just another opinion here, but here's what I think. In a word, "Maybe". how's that for riding the fence? First I'd take a look at the amount of wood you might plan on running over the jointer. If in your opinion, it would be a fair amount..........well then..perhaps a good investment to be sure. However, would accomplishing the same ends via different means override the investment? If you're planning on using smallish to medium sized boards, ski's and a table saw jig would accomplish pretty much the same end result...

I'd say that if you already own a planer then yes it would be a good investment. With the jointer you're essentially working on 2 sides of the board. Truing up 1 edge and one face. Once this has been accomplished, its off the the planer or sander to do the opposing face and then to the table saw to run a parallel edge. Aside from the occasional novelty board I'll pick up on Ebay or here and there, 99% of the wood I get is roughsawn and requires my truing it up. Nice thing is, I can true it up to "MY" specs!!

I've a 6" Craftsman Professional jointer and I have to say, I really would NOT want to do without it. The only thing I would change would be I wish it were an 8" jointer. She gets used on just about every piece of wood I bring into the shop. From shorties to 8 footers. The cut it leaves behind is acceptable. I say acceptable due to the fact that the knives are about shot and should be replaced soon. When new, and set up properly she leaves behind an excellent finish (for a jointer!!) Noise is not a big issue. Need to be a bit careful when working with figured woods, tearout can be a problem and almost impossible to avoid unless you have one of the high end spiral cutters. An expense comparable to the cost of the jointer itself in some cases. On occasion the chips do clog up the unit, usually when I'm rushing things *L*. A dust collector is not a must, but unless you want to spend a good deal of your time with a broom and dust pan in hand, its handy to have. Setup is pretty straight forward and should be checked regularly. Keeping the knives sharp and a little rust prevention is about the only maintenance.

BTW... even if you don't have a planer, a well tuned #4 or #5 handplane along with a pair of winding sticks and a good straightedge can make quick work of truing up that 2nd face with a little practice.

SO, I'd say if ya got the funds, the room and the wood, most likely an investment you will not regret....

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edit to add: I've found that when chipout is a problem, slowing down and shallowing out the pass has helped considerably.....grain direction over the knives is a biggie!!!!

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I have the small 6" Grizzly jointer. Prior to that I used a 60+ year old jointer in my father's home shop.

Jointers are wonderful at the 2 main jobs they perform, making one board face perfectly flat and then making one edge perfectly 90 degrees to that face. Edge rabbets are also possible with some jointers, but not important to me.

With any kind of rough lumber, a jointer is indispensable in the shop.

Best of luck, that one in the link looks like it would do what you need just fine.

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A jointer will save you a lot of time and produce two perfectly flat, flush sides. This opens up the option of buying rough cut lumber which is a big money saver. It also allows many more options in wood selection. One option to consider is buying a used jointer. They are simple machines and hold up well. If buying new consider the spiral cutter head as they are quieter and produce a better cut. I recommend a 6 inch at a minimum. In evaluating 6 inch versus bigger sizes ask yourself how wide you want boards in a glue-up for a table top. Many woodworkers want 6 inch max (to limit warping) so a larger jointer is unnecessary. Having said that the 6 inch capacity limits your board size when buying unless you are willing to run wider boards through your band saw. (Often the twists in rough lumber won't allow use of a table saw until the board is jointed.)
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I bought a used 6 inch Jet off of Craigslist. I really like it and often wonder how did I ever get along without it.

Note: My work area is small and there is no way I could fit an eight incher in there.

Seems many boards these days are cupped so I usually rip them down, then joint a flat side and edges. Then I run them through the planer.

My latest project, a toy box, was built that way which resulted in 18 inch wide panels. It turned out pretty nice.

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I vote wholeheartedly "YES"!!!!! It is a Godsend for rough lumber. I'm not good enough (or patient enough) with a handplane or router to flatten or square boards consistently that way. The jointer gives very repeatable results with very little time investment. Time is a premium.

I'm on my second jointer, as a matter of fact. I liked the smaller one I had so well I bought a longer one and retrofitted it with a Byrd Shelix Cutter Head with Carbide Inserts. I couldn't see working without it.
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James
A jointer has it uses besides jointing boards for edge glue ups you can cut rabbets ,chamfers. I have a jointer but usually I use my table saw and router to do the above cuts.
But I would never be without my planers I build nothing that I have not corrected the thickness before I start good luck making your decision. John
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I have an 8" x 72" and couldn't work without it anymore. I stand between my TS and the jointer and I often take boards off the saw and turn around and run them over the jointer to get rid of saw marks before making another cut. I also use a lot of rough lumber and the jointer and a planer are absolutely necessary for me and both have paid themselves off.

I also sometimes take small logs up to about 8" in diameter and 4' to 5' long and run them over the jointer until I get 1 flat side then turn it and get a 90 degree face to it. Then plane the other faces and you have a timber you can cut lumber from.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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