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Okay, I ordered my saw this morning... For you new here, it's a custom ordered Laguna TSS European sliding table saw (10"-12" main blade) with scoring and with loads of accessories and blades (with another dado set). Got a greet deal on the quote, plus a fair discount.

The lead time is 2-1/2 months for it to be shipped to my doorstep. Built, then shipped in a container, customs... etc. In those 2-1/2 months, I have to sell my Rockwell Shop saw and my Craftsman Electronic Radial Arm Saw. I also need to plumb in a dust extraction system.

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Holy Hanna! He's alive!!
We (I) thought you'd fallen into your dust collector and been recycled...

Welcome back; it's been awhile.
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I look forward to seeing the photo's Mike. I am glad you got this on order after the long struggle.

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Better news (Maybe).

I got a voice mail saying the guy in front of me is not ready for "his" delivery. They have his saw in California now and I'm next in line. So they say they can deliver now. I need to call this morning to confirm. The rest of the order of the option they don't have in stock would be UPS'ed.

My first question should be about the motor. Normally it comes with a 3hp Baldor (1phase/240v). My order is with a 4.5hp Baldor (1 phase/240v). I guess if it doesn't, what... they ship me a 4.5hp motor and I keep the 3.0? I'm not sure what of the options they don't have in stock... They mentioned shipping the 24" telescoping crosscut fence and mobility kit later. The fence is okay later... but I was sort of depending on the mobility kit. 1000 pounds is sort of a challenge for "me" to try to move around.

Some of the options I ordered-

For the sliding table:
- Positive stop miter table
- Clip-on Extension table
- Extra miter slot locking clamp
- 24 inch telescoping crosscut fence

Scoring Motor
- Spilt scoring blades
- dado shim set, scoring

Main blade-
- dado shim set, main
- Laguna finish dado set
- Assorted Laguna blades, 10" and 12"
- Extra blade insert blanks.

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- mobility kit.
- rear extension table

I talked over most of these with you guys long ago. The positive locking miter table is something I saw necessary after seeing how the crosscut fence was designed, taliking with TSS owners, locking at a few Felder's and Altendorf's... and after many, many, many Skype conversations with Phil P. The standard crosscut fence is 48 with a 48" extension. I have another 24" extension for that. The pivot is near the cut line. The standard locking mechanism is about 10" (the saw is metric) from the pivot point... The positive locking miter table, besides making repeatable miters a no-brainer, changes the pivot point and also changes the locking point out to about 36", so supporting the fence better.

I already have some 10-20, 15-30 and 20-40 aluminum extrusion rip and crosscut accessory fences made up for this saw... (I planned ahead.) I have a plan for a different riving knife design... And a floating overhead crown with better dust collection.

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Mike--i don't know that saw, but for me it would boil down to 2 key factors...

1. Much would depend on the installation of the Mobility Kit. If it can be installed properly with the saw assembled and sitting on the floor--ship the saw now and mobility later. If we have to disassemble the saw and/or lift a half-ton ro retro-fit--send my saw when you have the mobility kit.

2. The motor--the available saw may have the 4.5 single phase, that would be great. The person who called may not have realized the motor difference...not so great. If it's the 3.0 for 4.5 swap after the fact will they let you keep the 3.0 (awesome!!) or pay the round-trip freight to send it back??

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On it's way. It should hit the local shipper one week from this coming Monday (May 27th).

What won't be there is the dado set, which will ship from Canada. The Angled rear extension table, the "24-inch extension" part of the 24" cross-cut fence (The accessory 24" and the 48" cross-cut fence is there) and the mobility kit... will be 2 months, in the container from Bulgaria.

I reminded him that the show season is coming up... I talked him into throwing in some T-shirts and Hats.

I'm feeling like a kid having to wait for Christmas morning!

I am wondering how I'm going to move this around without the mobility kit... without a pallet jack.

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Thank you for reminding me- I can borrow a diesel engine hoist which doesn't fold, would have to get it here on an equipment trailer (also borrowed from same) and would be free... From a guy I used to do diesel mechanics for.

A just got back from Tacoma, where I picked up a Crown 2.5 ton pallet jack. It was on Craig's List for $100. Problem solved.

Now I have a week to reorganize the garage again... and sell my shop saw and the extra radial arm saw.

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