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Question Dust collector clogging up.

I recently purchased a small dust collection unit from Hare and Forbes in Sydney and due to overseas holiday only started to use it today.

I am using the DC on a H&F 6" jointer and the results were, to say the least, disappointing.

It seems that the chips from the jointer are clogging up against the cross webbing in the plastic joiners. I am using standard 4" hose.

I am asking if anyone else had this, or a similar problem, and if so, how was the problem fixed.

At this stage, I am looking at cutting the webbing/grating out of the inlet tube on the Dc unit.
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I recently purchased a small dust collection unit from Hare and Forbes in Sydney and due to overseas holiday only started to use it today.

I am using the DC on a H&F 6" jointer and the results were, to say the least, disappointing.

It seems that the chips from the jointer are clogging up against the cross webbing in the plastic joiners. I am using standard 4" hose.

I am asking if anyone else had this, or a similar problem, and if so, how was the problem fixed.

At this stage, I am looking at cutting the webbing/grating out of the inlet tube on the Dc unit.
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Here's my take on it clogging up on those long shavings... and you wanting to cut the webbing out...

The webbing is doing it's job right now. It's filtering out the big pieces that would otherwise have to get by the fins in the impeller. If it gets caught up in the impeller fins.... or without the webbing a big piece gets by and gets jammed between the impeller and the housing-- bad juju.

My suggestion would be to get 2 4" couplings and a 4" street elbow... put them through a top for a small garbage can... those should run less that $10. Cylone to separate out the chips before they get to your DC.

My TS, RAS, planer, router table, chop saws, sanders, vacuuming, etc...All I get in the bag at my DC is a few fines.

Just saying. Doesn;t having to be something costly... just something that works right?

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Hi Mike.

Thanks for the response.

One of the solutions I was looking today was to run the dc through the Triton Dust Bucket I have on my old DC system (see attached photo).

The only problem is that I would have to go from 4" down to 1 3/4" and back up to 4".

The response from the Aussie wood working forum is this is a common problem and recommending cutting away the webbing.

I do not see these shaving as "big pieces".

The jury will rest until further votes come in..........

PS: the old system cleaned up the mess with no clogging, but I am not sure how the Vac would handle the jointer in operation.
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James,

I do agree with Mike.
Rather than cutting out the rough filter, make sure the rough stuff doesn't get into the impeller to start with.
If it's an improvised cyclone, as Mike pointed it out, or something more sophisticated - it doesn't have to be costly.
Since I can't post links yet - have a look for "Thien baffle". Since there's no instructions on thiens home page, you might have to do a google anyway - there's numerous people who built one successfully and gave more informations about the build.
Should be easy to build for a router-pro as you are ;-)

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I may look at something like this:

Carba-Tec® Dust Deputy : CARBA-TEC


For you guys in USA, check the price of this:

Carba-Tec® Super Dust Deputy : CARBA-TEC

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I may look at something like this:

Carba-Tec® Dust Deputy : CARBA-TEC


For you guys in USA, check the price of this:

Carba-Tec® Super Dust Deputy : CARBA-TEC
This is what I did to mine soon after buying it many moons ago James and because it has a metal impeller I often hear clanking noises but there has never been any damage.
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one of these or similar may be the answer...
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one of these or similar may be the answer...
I had a link to one from Carba-tec, but was not sure if it would work with a 4" system.

My dc does not have a large motor, so I am hoping that will do.

My main concern is the collection of the chips/shavings. As I will be working outside, dust is not the main worry.

Being cheap, my first thought is to go with Harry's option.

Jury is still debating.........

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@James - a cyclone is surely the best option if "government" agrees - the ones you pointed out give a good feeling, except for the somewhat flimsy looking plastic bucket, which I would replace with a metal bin.
2nd best is to build any type of separator yourself - it's just some bucks and some work, and might even be as efficient as a cyclone. And fun to build on the way.

@Harry - no offense meant: if any tiny metal piece (**** happens) hits the metal fan, and a spark gets struck........ - only recently a wood workers shop I know burnt down due to that (luckily nobody hurt - "just" the workshop ruined). The bad thing is, you won't recognize it immediately, as it takes hours to burst into flames - usually when you're long snoring after a days work. So having the bigger parts sorted out before anything hitting the fan is surely a good idea to avoid unnecessary trouble.

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@James - a cyclone is surely the best option if "government" agrees - the ones you pointed out give a good feeling, except for the somewhat flimsy looking plastic bucket, which I would replace with a metal bin.
2nd best is to build any type of separator yourself - it's just some bucks and some work, and might even be as efficient as a cyclone. And fun to build on the way.

@Harry - no offense meant: if any tiny metal piece (**** happens) hits the metal fan, and a spark gets struck........ - only recently a wood workers shop I know burnt down due to that (luckily nobody hurt - "just" the workshop ruined). The bad thing is, you won't recognize it immediately, as it takes hours to burst into flames - usually when you're long snoring after a days work. So having the bigger parts sorted out before anything hitting the fan is surely a good idea to avoid unnecessary trouble.

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Phew, Martin, I am glad mine only has a plastic impeller.......

The current decision on the Aussie woodworking forum is for :

Dust Separator Lid : CARBA-TEC

,this lid and a metal bucket (trash can). Or Harrys solution....(which was the first suggestion in Australia)

At this point I am leaning toward the lid instead of cutting the webbing.

This is not an exercise but a real situation I need sorted.........

I will be going to my Mens Shed and Carba-tec tomorrow.......

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