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when I was a kid, way back in time, my dad had a wood rasp that I iike to play with because I could cut into a wood board with it so easy. Later in life, I had a friend that was a gun smith, he was a much older man and a skilled rifle stock artist, I asked him one time if he would help make a stock for a rifle which he did and in the process I used a rasp that did a great job.

A couple of years ago I decided that I needed a rasp in my woodworking endeavors and bought one but it turned out to be a real disappointment. The rasp is small, about eight inches long and in my opinion, almost worthless compared to what I remember about the ones mentioned above.

Just now, I went on line and looked at rasps and I see one that sounds like what I'm remembering about them. It's a "Global" rasp and sells for $80 dollars. I'm wondering what other members of the forum have to say about rasps and can a good one be had for less than $80.

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This may be why some cost so much more.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=y...&v=bkizsqzOewY
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The other absolute top-of-the-line rasps are the Liogier made ones. Liogier, hand-stitched (hand-cut) rasps and rifflers, floats for wood, plaster and stone

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I use my horse old horse shoeing rasps, when they are no longer sharp enough for hooves.

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Thanks for bringing that up, Mike. I'd heard that those were excellent rasps. Next time I'm in town, I'll see about a couple new ones.
For smaller stuff, Japan woodworking has a nice selection. Reasonably priced, too.

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Jerry...

My Sam Maloof rocker build required the use of rasps.
http://www.routerforums.com/project-...air-build.html
This turned out to be an eye opening experience to what rasps/burrs are really capable of and just how useful they really can be. To answer your question quickly. Your price point is just shy of the cost of a really good rasp and well over the cost of a decent rasp. I'm sure there is something in the middle, I'm just not familiar with them if there is.
In the under 80 bucks range a couple I am familiar with are:

Nicholsons #49 and #50 rasps:
Nicholson #49 Patternmaker's Rasp | Nicholson Wood Files & Rasps
Nicholson #50 Patternmaker's Rasp | Nicholson Wood Rasps

Both Nicholson rasps are quite good. But are IMHO a general purpose rasp.
If you were only to have a couple, these two would be my choice.
A side note on these is that a few years back, Nicholson started manufacturing
these in Brazil. There are those who consider them to be not of the same
quality as those that used to be mfg'd in the states. Even at that, these are pretty
good. If you are looking for a comparison in terms of grain, these two are about the same as a #7 and a #9 Auriou rasp.

Another style I am familiar with would be Microplane:
Microplane Woodworking Tools - Buy Direct from the Mfg.
These are quite unique. Reviews on these are generally positive.
Certainly an affordable option. In use, I found them to be OK.
To be honest, I havn't spent alot of time with them to give them a
fair assessment. The selection is limited to a "coarse" and a "fine" cut pattern

On the high end, premium rasps:
Lioger: Liogier, producer of hand-stitched (hand-cut) rasps and rifflers for wood, plaster and stone & floats

Auriou: Auriou Rasps and Rifflers - Forge De Saint Juery

Lioger and Auriou are two of the leading mfg. of hand stitched rasps and rifflers. They are simply outstanding. Both in the manufacturing process and in use. Both offer a wide variety of rasps and rifflers in various hand stiched grades. (stitching is the process used to raise the rasps metal to a sharp edge). The grain is the number of teeth on the rasp. Generally ranked from a p1 (very course) to a p15 (very fine). One of the big surprises with the Aurious was that there is no tearout when working along the edges of a piece. Another is that these rasp do
not "track" the wood, whereas most conventional rasps tend to leave behind ruts. This is not to say you get a perfectly smooth finish with the premium rasps, but you do get one requiring much less sanding. The finer grain rasps leave behind an amazingly smooth finish for a rasp, requiring minimal sanding.
I have several Auriou's now and can't speak well enough about them. I'd be willing to say that the Lioger are in the same class as the Auriou's. Take the time to read the info pages of both mfg's. Quite informative. As well check out some of the YouTube videos.

just a couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDDA-S0eSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvr2nZeAfNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DThQm5eCHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1_PDwWtQQM

More and more there are Japanese rasps and rifflers coming into the market. I have not had a chance to use them and quite honestly, I"m happy with what I have. I can't see how they could be any better than Auriou's. But the cost for these are considerably less and they may very well be good rasps. I dunno...

So the question is what to get. There really is not a one size fits all rasp. However, if you are looking for just couple of affordable, well performing rasps, the Nicholsons get my vote. At a little better than 100 bucks for the pair, you can't go wrong. If you then decide that the use of a rasp is something you like or find usefull, then start looking into the Liogers and Auriou's. At a bit over 100 EA. these are worth the money. But don't think that just one will due. Something along the lines of a #5 and a #10grain would make for a good start.
I spent hours on the rocker using rasps and never tired of it.

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I was given one of these a few months back. Looks to be quite old, but rarely if ever used. At about 18"s long and stiched like a piranha's mouth the thing is just wicked!
And man, does it hog out the wood...

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I use them for an array of work...
they definitely have their place...

here's a link to a large selection of them and pricing..

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Interesting you would say that Mike. I have one, and it will hog out wood like there is no tomorrow. Almost. I have a nice piece of wood out of a pallet, and it just slides over that wood like it was a piece of steel, doesn't do a thing to it. Not a clue what type of wood it is, except tough wood. I seldom use it, but when I do it works just fine - except on that one piece of mystery wood.

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Jerry you always have great questions the keep us all on our toes, thinking and learning. Now, having learned that random hand made rasps are better, I have to wonder why they could not have a machine cut randomly?
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