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Well let's see if I can ask this in a way that it makes sense. As some of you know, my present project is that of attempting to build a cedar chest.

In my attempt to put the frame around the lid of the cedar chest I ran into the problem of getting the lid's dimensions to match the inside dimension of the frame. I had glued up the frame first and then had to trim the edge of the lid to fit into the frame which I did but it was a bit awkward in that the lid weighs about 19 lbs. it is 36" x 20" and I made the trim cuts on the Incra Express Sled.

My question is this. Would a hand held router work to take off very small amounts of material from the edge of a workpiece like I have described. I'm talking about as little as 1/64" or even less, and keep the edge as clean as what the TS does?

I have never used a hand held router, don't know squat about them so I just need to ask questions like this one.

I also think, but am not certain, but it seems to me that cutting slots for a spline all around that lid would be easier done with a hand held router than on the router table due to the awkwardness of the size of the lid, does this sound right?

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Jerry,

Is the side you need to trim end grain or edge grain?

Your jointer could clean up an end grain side nicely.

If you are going to take off a tiny bit on end grain, your router will to a good job with that as well. Experiment on a scrap piece, and see how it looks. If you get fuzzing, you can try a piece of masking tape or packng tape on the wood to see if that helps.

The slot for the spline can be done with a handheld router.

If you've glued up the frame, how are you going to get a spline in?

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Jerry,

Is the side you need to trim end grain or edge grain?

Your jointer could clean up an end grain side nicely.

If you are going to take off a tiny bit on end grain, your router will to a good job with that as well. Experiment on a scrap piece, and see how it looks. If you get fuzzing, you can try a piece of masking tape or packng tape on the wood to see if that helps.

The slot for the spline can be done with a handheld router.

If you've glued up the frame, how are you going to get a spline in?
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In regard to the spline, it is for those real nice chest that I will build later after learning about building them while atemping to build this first one, and boy, am I learning.

The question about trimming with the router is in regard to the end grain on the ends of the board that the lid is made of when trying to to match the outside dimensions of the lid to the inside dimensions of the frame. I know that a person should be able to cut the frame to fit the lid, but it is so easy, for me anyway, to overcut that final front part of the frame when I try to sneak up on the exact fit.

I think that is about time to buy that new router, so I'm back to decided between the more expensive Makita or the less expensive Bosch Colt.

Thanks for the post to question.

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Jerry,

Is the side you need to trim end grain or edge grain?

Your jointer could clean up an end grain side nicely.

If you are going to take off a tiny bit on end grain, your router will to a good job with that as well. Experiment on a scrap piece, and see how it looks. If you get fuzzing, you can try a piece of masking tape or packng tape on the wood to see if that helps.

The slot for the spline can be done with a handheld router.

If you've glued up the frame, how are you going to get a spline in?

Doug,

I don't understand this sentence.

If you get fuzzing, you can try a piece of masking tape or packng tape on the wood to see if that helps.

What do you mean by "fuzzing" and using the masking tape?

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sometimes trimming end grain, you can get a little bit of tear out (especially on wood like red oak). When I had a cheap table saw a long time ago, I was given the tip to put masking tape along the cut line, and it reduced the tear out immensely. It has also worked while routing for me. The tape provides just a little bit of support so the fibers don't push up.

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sometimes trimming end grain, you can get a little bit of tear out (especially on wood like red oak). When I had a cheap table saw a long time ago, I was given the tip to put masking tape along the cut line, and it reduced the tear out immensely. It has also worked while routing for me. The tape provides just a little bit of support so the fibers don't push up.
O.K. I understand, I do what you have described with rip cut a lot, especially when ripping plywood.

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No I don't see how you could do it. You would need something perfectly straight for a bearing on a bit to rest on and this something would have to protrude from the edge of the wood by a little more than what you want to take off and be perfectly perpendicular to the piece that you are trying to trim. This job is best suited to a jointer or hand plane. A table mounted router would work but wold take a little time setting up the with a shim.
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For 1/64" removal of wood - a sander is hard to beat.

Why buy a $200-$500.00 router to do a 25 cent job?

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I agree with Otis, and it's annoyingly quiet also.
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[QUOTE=OPG3;385527]For 1/64" removal of wood - a sander is hard to beat.

Why buy a $200-$500.00 router to do a 25 cent job?

Otis Guillebeau from Auburn, Georgia[/QUOTE

Otis,
I had not planned on buying the router just for that purpose, would us it for lots of things, just wondered about that one issue, but I will try sanding as you suggest for the purpose of that final fit of the lid and the frame. Thanks for your response to my inquiry, you seem to always come through for me.

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