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Several years ago before I started my woodworking career. It was when my interest was still in photography. I had purchased a nice frame for a photo on line to see how it was made. It was a pretty simple frame but kinda of spendy, $60 as I recall.

The way that the mitered corners were secured was rather interesting. As I recall, there was a piece like a small bow tie inlay that occupied the area across the joint ion the back of the frame at each corner. The inlays, the little parts that fit into the recesswa were maybe 3/4" in length and maybe 3/8" wide at the each end of the inlay, the wide ends. I'm wondering if anybody has an idea as to whether or not a person could cut an inlay that small with the router inlay kits that iare available to most of us, like the one that I have on order.

I'm not really into making picture frames anymore, but am just wondering if anybody has had any experience in what I'm referring to. It was or is a really good way to secure a mitered corner of a picture frame.

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The fastener your referring to is cut with a machine made for frame shops. The two pieces are held in a quick vise and the slot with the bumps on the end is cut. Then without removing it the shop owner pounds the plastic piece in. Ity has a pulling advantage and pulls the miter together.

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The fastener your referring to is cut with a machine made for frame shops. The two pieces are held in a quick vise and the slot with the bumps on the end is cut. Then without removing it the shop owner pounds the plastic piece in. Ity has a pulling advantage and pulls the miter together.

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Al, I'm not sure that what you have described is what I am referring to. When I ordered the frame, it came the four parts and I assembled it. Recesses for the piece that I'm asking about came separately. I inserted them, they fit pretty snug and glue was not required, but it should have been used. I gave the frame along with a photoe of her daughter as a gift and the frame has held up now without the glue for sevral years.

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Jerry, take a look at this. It may be what your referring to.
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Jerry, take a look at this. It may be what your referring to.
No, thas's not it or I'm seeing the photo well, that's example of the type I photo that I can't see. The white background almost completely blinds me. Hard for anybody to understand. Try to imagine the flat sides of the back of a picture frame coming together at the mitered cut. The bow tie lays across the the mitered cut, half on one side of the cut and the the other half on the other side of the cut. The little bow tie part drops into it's recess that is cut across the mitered cut.


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If you lake Do It Yourself machines you could use this and just cut deeper.

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The wood turners use them all the time to repair a crack in a bowl or whatever there turning. Iím sure there is wood turning clubs near you, contact them.
Here in Hawaii at our next meeting our program is going to be about inserting the bow ties. They can be purchased by the bag already cut out ready to use. Than you make the cut out with a small router to remove most of the material and set the depth, you use a chisel to finish the sharp points. Iíve seen it done in both curved surfaces and flat. For picture frames mostly flat it is fairly easy to do and goes quick after you have your jig made and set up.
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These days Jerry "V" nails are what most framers use and various tools are available to insert these from simple to professional. I have a friend, a professional framer who has a large pedal operated machine for the purpose. This shot is self explanatory.
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These days Jerry "V" nails are what most framers use and various tools are available to insert these from simple to professional. I have a friend, a professional framer who has a large pedal operated machine for the purpose.
Harry, I bought a similar tool several years ago, it operated by hand, cost a couple hundred dollars as I recall, I never liked it, but it was also about the time that I gave up photography for woodworking. It is just drawing dust over in the corner with the a couple of non-sliding compound saws. The last frames that I made were joined at the miter joints with biscuits, that was when I did not know that they did not add strength to the joint, but they seem to work pretty well at the time .

Thanks for the tip though, glad that you are still trying to be of help.

Maybe the BBT will come today or tomorroe with the new router, hope so, and thanks again for the heads up on not tryong to cut slits with it...

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Biscuits in a picture frame certainly adds strength to the mitre.

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